• Incel behavior includes using “female” as a noun when talking about women. Using “female” as an adjective is perfectly normal and common. It is fine to write “female coworker” instead of “coworker who is a woman.”

    Some people are hypersensitive to wrongspeak.

    • 9 months

      I don’t think people are bothered by “female coworker”, which is perfectly normal. It’s the reference to a “female-only” community, when the actual com is called WomensStuff and describes itself as “women only” and “a women’s community”.

      • Maybe it’s just me, but in female-only community, I’m using female as part of a composed adjective. I’d say male-only community too, it just feels more natural. In fact, in an earlier comment I wrote women only, and then writing man only felt SO bad that I changed both to female and male.

        Now that I think about it it’s probably because I used man instead of men. I’ll change both back but OOP miiight have followed my logic? Idk

  • 9 months

    Segregated anything is fucking dumb. Segregated internet communities are especially fucking dumb because anyone can be anyone on the internet.

    • 9 months

      Congratulations, you’re the man they’re trying to forget exists for 10 fucking minutes a day in their off time!

      • 9 months

        I am in full support of the community rules but that’s an interesting claim when like 1/3 of the posts are about men lol

        Downvote me all you want but there’s there’s literally 4 posts about men on the frontpage. The community should be a safe space for women to talk about men but don’t misrepresent it as a place to forget about men

  • That’s community’s mods are super nice. Probably too nice TBH.

    …But yeah. Follow community rules, or post elsewhere. What is so hard about that?

    • I think it’s hard simply because browsing by /all, or even by communities you follow and then just in your main thread, is not set up to highlight the community or it’s rules. If something hits the front page of /all I’m rarely digging into the communities specific rules or even where it’s coming from to an extent. Only to say, it’s a learned behavior to care about the communities specifically in this site aggregator system.

      All of that being said, people of course should respect community rules and learn the behavior of identifying what room they’re in before engaging with that community. I’m just not surprised when these flimsy barriers fail.

      Is the best behavior to block any community you don’t or can’t participate in? I personally don’t love that behavior because I like seeing what everyone is discussing in threads, but that’s a reasonable solution. Obviously my current strat is just reading the community before posting (like not commenting negatively about Star Gate getting a new season in the star gate community as an example that happened today lol).

      • Wandering in, missing the rule sign, getting corrected, and apologizing is fine. I’ve done it; the mods there couldn’t have been nicer about it. It’s not an ideal system, no, but it works well enough; it’s the mods shouldering that burden more than anything.

        …The problem is when the guys are corrected, yet keep talking anyway. Which I see happen a lot.

        There is no excuse for that.


        Is the best behavior to block any community you don’t or can’t participate in? I personally don’t love that behavior because I like seeing what everyone is discussing in threads, but that’s a reasonable solution.

        I feel extremely mixed about this, yeah. I feel weird even talking about it.

        I personally don’t love that behavior because I like seeing what everyone is discussing in threads, but that’s a reasonable solution.

        The women’s space… doesn’t prohibit lurking? On one hand, the community is public, and I’m curious about the perspective in the discussions. I’m interested in understanding them so I can be a more respectful person myself.

        I upvote their posts so they get more exposure.

        …But I don’t want to violate their privacy either. Blocking is reasonable. Right now, I just upvote them but don’t enter the threads.


        Obviously my current strat is just reading the community before posting (like not commenting negatively about Star Gate getting a new season in the star gate community as an example that happened today lol).

        Read the room, yeah.

        IMO TV fandoms shouldn’t worship their material. Negative discussion is allowed, otherwise the space gets toxic.

        In fact, this kinda happened to one of my personal fandom spaces, /r/thelastairbender: among other things, they idolize ATLA (the original series) like a diety, to the point where anything different (including other material like Korra or the Netflix adaption) is demonized. Deeper stuff like the novels, fanfics or speculative lore is not welcome either.

        That sucks. It’s all too common; the Star Wars fandom (for instance) is notorious for it. And its why some negativity and ‘outsider perspectives’ should be welcomed in such spaces.

        The women’s space is different though. It’s basically a shelter from the shit this group puts up with IRL and online, so being more sensitive makes sense.

        • I completely agree. I just wish I could systematically prevent myself from making any mistake lol, or like anyone from making the first mistake.

          Anyone doing it intentionally is a dick and should be blocked. This is just an interesting problem for the platform we’re on and I’m excited to see how the Internet develops overtime to fix this.

          • how do you measure someone else’s intention behind an internet post? other than your own arbitrary judgement of it?

      • I think it’s hard simply because browsing by /all, or even by communities you follow and then just in your main thread, is not set up to highlight the community or it’s rules. If something hits the front page of /all I’m rarely digging into the communities specific rules or even where it’s coming from to an extent. Only to say, it’s a learned behavior to care about the communities specifically in this site aggregator system.

        Bingo. This is the classic ‘read the sidebar’ crap from reddit. most users aren’t reading hte sidebar because the side bar doesn’t exist for them when they click in front the front page.

        or the ‘this post is already been made why don’t you search instead of making new posts’. because search is stupid and useless for the most part, and a thread from six months ago is likely not relevant today.

    • because that isn’t how a public internet site works.

      if you go to a public park and hold a women only event, and get upset men are in the park and wander over and are curious what is going on… and get upset about those men then the problem is you and your unrealistic expectations of exclusivity.

      if you want a private exclusive type of space… then make it private and exclusive. that way you can control who views and interacts with the event and even hire security to keep the ‘wrong’ people out.

      like if the mods want to auto-ban everyone who doesn’t personally verify with them their womanhood, that’s their business. but expecting people to self-police their gender is a dumb expectation.

      personally i have a dick but i don’t really identify as being a ‘man’. nor do identify as being a ‘woman’. i’m just a person. so am i therefore allowed to commentate? or is the mods who determine my sex/gender status, regardless of how i perceive myself?

      • The public park is owned by everyone, not just the women. You would be correct to be upset by men being excluded from this public space.

        Comms are not public assets. Your use of any comm is entirely at the pleasure of the administrators of that comm, and their designated moderators.

        Your opinion on the way they implement and enforce their rules is entirely irrelevant within their comm.

        My suggestion would be to do what you would for any other comm whose behavior you do not support and/or whose rules you find reprehensible: block them and move on.

        • they should make their community private then. that way they can control who virtually walks in the door, so to speak.

          as is, there is no door. it’s a public space that anyone can access.

      • To correct your ‘public park’ analogy, the space is public. Anyone can wander in. But it has clear signs posted at the only entrance saying its a space for women to speak, please be quiet, otherwise.

        Missing the sign and apologizing is understandable.

        But but if you wander in and knowingly violate that rule by electing to speak up, that is no one’s fault but yours.


        personally i have a dick but i don’t really identify as being a ‘man’. nor do identify as being a ‘woman’. i’m just a person. so am i therefore allowed to commentate? or is the mods who determine my sex/gender status, regardless of how i perceive myself?

        …A primary reason for that rule is basically “don’t be a dick about this being a women’s only space, please.”

        If you feel you qualify as a woman to speak in the space, go for it! That’s the idea. That’s the spirit of the rule. But you specifically say "nor do [I] identify as being a ‘woman’. "

        Making an issue out of it is precisely what is unwanted. So is trying to blame the space for your deliberate choice.


        I don’t get why this is so hard to grasp. It’s simple.

        • just because i feel that way doesn’t mean the people in charge feel that way.

          it’s just part of life. mods gotta mod. this entire post to me just seems like moral grandstanding/public shaming.

          and further, i commented in that thread too. i came from the front page of lemmy.world. there were no rules posted. there was no signage. but i didn’t get called out by the mods because i ‘type like a girl’ and often pass as a woman on the internet.

      • Lets say you go to a public building and in that public building there is a room marked women only, lets say in that room are some toilets, would you go in that room? Since it’s a public space in the same building as all the other public space, the only difference is that portion of the space is understood to be only for women, or those that identify as women.

        You may stumble in accidentally, and you will be gently corrected, but if you keep stumbling in, it’s gonna start to seem weird, and the corrections will get less gentle.

        • yeah i would. esp if the men’s room was locked.

          i have gone into plenty of women’s rooms before. i don’t really give a shit about gender/sex rules when it comes to not shitting my pants.

          sometimes when i came out a woman got all huffy, but they never did anything about it. because it’s pretty stupid ultimately. everyone has to shit. and most people dont’ care women use the man’s room.

          but i don’t live in gender exclusivity/anxiety land like many people do. most gender exclusivity people have identity issues hence they need to police other people’s gender and sex and make massive generalizations about others gender and sex because they lack self-awareness and understanding and confidence.

  • 9 months

    I honestly don’t know what you’re offended by. Maybe I wasn’t reading closely enough, but could you spell it out for me?

    • Maybe I believe in community rules too strictly.

      If the rules say women only, it means women only.

      • Women enters men only space = stunning and brave

        Man enters women only space = sexist and misogynistic and low key sexual assault…

        Also, online, womens only spaces are usually just as toxic as fuck as any incel space. We just dont call them what they are. So, IMO, some rules need to take a big long hard suck of societies asshole.