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15 days

Scientist says RAM pricing has risen to normalized 2007 levels, AI shortage undid 20 years of progress in a matter of months — memory prices had been falling exponentially for decades

www.tomshardware.com English

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/73628131

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    The price reversal is caused by the unbridled demand for HBM.
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    • hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world
      15 days

      They put the onus on AI for the price increase but honestly I believe the ram cartel is responsible to the same degree.

      Either way, it looks like we’re soon getting an out, because both of those things are at the brink of changing. And if any one of us has any say in this, they should make sure these things change as fast as possible.

        • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldBanned from community
          15 days

          The cartel can only price fix because no other foundry wanted their stock price to go down because of small margins.

          AMD sold their foundry. Intel has a foundry. They could have made ram to ensure long term growth but that would have affected their quarterly profit.

            • hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world
              15 days

              For all we know AMD would have just joined them.

              It’s just really depressing to see the global economy basically be held ransom by 3 companies just because the EU and America didn’t properly slam those companies the first time. History doesn’t repeat itself but there’s been way too much historic poetry lately.

                • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldBanned from community
                  14 days

                  The US couldn’t slam Asian businesses for price fixing if they wanted those same countries to buy American price fixed food. That’s why it was a slap on the wrist. It was only political theatre.

            • SoupBrick@pawb.social
              15 days

              Consumer: Prices have been falling :)

              Shareholders: Prices have been falling :(

              • DisgruntledPelican@lemmy.world
                15 days

                Every stars are aligned. We are At the top level of capitalism greed. For decades tech companies have piled up as much cash as possible sucking every dime selling their product. Now they want to rent their service instead. The best to do that is to host the service on a super computer, the user having only a low power terminal. They deliberately crippled the os to use the maximum ram and said we need to update our computer for ai and other things most don’t want, don’t need and don’t have the money to pay for it. The best move is to exchange their huge pile of cash to drain the whole market to build data centres. They now want everyone to become dependant on ai and pay them a significant part of our salary to satisfy their shareholders.

                  • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net
                    14 days

                    the user having only a low power terminal

                    Low power terminals that are going to have enough power to run doom locally. Sounds like retro gaming might see a boost. Along with current games that have low system requirements like Mindustry.

                  • whereitsat@lemmy.zip
                    14 days

                    hey, scientist here. i did an extensive study on ram prices that tracked the cost of ram between 2007 and 2026. this may not sound impressive, because all i had to do was look at the average price every year, but trust me, bro, it was difficult.

                    if you think your average american can read or use microsoft excel you got another thing coming.

                      • motruck@lemmy.zip
                        14 days

                        Legit. Thank you from one scientist to another.

                        I wonder if anyone else is a bit of a scientist and can weigh in.

                        • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
                          14 days

                          I have a meeting coming up where I have to teach a bunch of people who to do something and there’s no less technical way to do it than using the Power Query function. I am dreading it because even getting someone to understand what a query is if you’re not technical is a nightmare.

                            • Mangoholic@lemmy.ml
                              14 days

                              Query for none technicals. A shopping list you bring to the warehouse to be given all you requested for pickup.

                          • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
                            15 days

                            Tell me something new. We don’t need scientists for that to know. :D

                            • Dispassionate@quokk.auEnglish
                              15 days

                              Oh so that’s the real reason

                              • PacketPilgrim@thelemmy.club
                                14 days

                                Eventually this is going to crater. Ammunition experienced a similar situation where it was being diverted to government contracts for years plus panic buying led to high prices. Then they came down again once demand normalized.

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