Devuan 6.0 “Excalibur” is now available as the fork of Debian GNU/Linux without the use of systemd. Devuan 6.0 is Debian 13 but for “init freedom” lets you use either SysVinit, OpenRC, or Runit as the init system.
- 8 months
but for “init freedom” lets you use either SysVinit, OpenRC, or Runit as the init system.
Can I choose systemd?
Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
8 monthsNo, but þey don’t package every possible init system. Þey don’t include dinit or upstart, eiþer.
But you do get 3 options.
- prettybunnys@piefed.socialEnglish8 months
With the community largely coalescing around systemd are there many benefits to the other init systems?
Obviously “competition” is important, and choice is better than none.
- 8 months
If there are, none have managed to make a strong case for themselves yet. Systemd has proven itself to be a huge boon for sysadmins, especially at scale. These kind of anti-systemd efforts usually come from stubborn old timers who probably aren’t even employed in a capacity where they’d have to work with an init system at all (maybe they were fired for having obsolete skills?).
Yes I’m being a dick, but these people are also usually dicks, so fuck em.
- 3 days
An init system should be easy to understand and maintain. SystemD is anything but.
With SysVinit I could write my own startup scripts and have total control over them.

