• “Safety tech”. OK. I was visiting a mate in the states, and the rental gave me a Nissan. Apparently, there’s a lot of construction going on in that state, and the Nissan tried to literally run me, at 100kmh, into a median, because it recognized the (clearly) scratched off lane markers and not the (clearly) newly painted lane markers. I had to use nearly all my upper body strength (whatever little of it I had left after a 13hr trip), to force the wheel to the left and away from death. And that fucker bitched at me the entire time! would have 100% died. All because of their fucking “safety” tech. I turned that shit off as soon as I parked. All of it. I’m still so angry at them for that shit.

  • Headline should read “One in five drivers switch off ‘safety’ tech meant to appease lawyers in a lawsuit-happy culture”

  • This makes me sound like I’m irresponsible. I’m not, I just happen to have a car with dangerously poorly designed “safety tech”.

    My car has sign recognition, cruise control, and lane keep assist. I use a single one, and one I can’t turn off permanently.

    Lane keep assist insists on making me drive way too far left, so I turned it off after it tried to kill me by forcing me into a super wide load truck coming towards me.

    Cruise control keeps wanting to switch setting to the recognised speed limit. But it picks up all sorts of stuff. So driving by a highway on ramp will make it suggest that I put the speed limiter to 130km/h, on a 70km/h road. But turning off sign recognition requires me to go through several menus and is reset when I park.

    On top of that the speed indicator is 4-5km/h too slow, so I’ll be going 84km/h according to the indicator, my GPS says I’m going 80km/h, and I’ll go by a sign and the speed limiter will pop up suggesting that I set it to 80. And btw the indicator displaying a faster speed than I’m going has nothing to do with wheel circumference. The car’s odometer is spot on. If google maps says a trip is 300km then the odometer advances 300km, not 298 or 302.

    • 47 minutes

      It’s mind boggling how poorly designed most of these systems are. These are multi-billion dollar corporations and they can’t do a simple thing correctly for the most part when it comes to these systems.

      For example, I don’t know why this isn’t the top and foremost thing but a car should NEVER be able to override when the human driver is trying to do. Sure, beep and adjust if veering out of the lane but as soon as any resistance it met by the wheel it should immediately turn off and let the driver do what they want to do.

    • Oh fuck yeah, I’ll be driving the posted 130km/h and it suddenly catches a fucking 40km/h speed limit sign from a roundabout from fuck-knows-where and tries to e-stop in the middle of the highway. God damnit Nissan. Audi on the other hand works more or less flawlessly. From the lane control to the matrix headlights, I really like the systems on Audi.

    • I drove a newer rental car and tried all the safety assist features. I felt the same way after less than at hour of driving and turned everything except cruise and emergency brake off.

      Don’t even get me started on how useless the voice control system was. The car voice control is usually significantry worse than the Google provided version. I frankly do not understand how Google has done such a garbage job. Voice control on Google seems to have gotten worse since it came out, not better. At least for actually getting things done rather than just asking silly questions. I can’t even effectively take a note on my motorcycle reliably by voice.

  • 2 hours

    Yeah, fuck that shit. I don’t need a light to come on every time a car is next to me, I can see them with my eyes. Yes I departed the lane, shut up.

  • 2 hours

    My 05 civic with no safety features because I simply can’t afford a new car.

  • 4 hours

    because they are awful!

    I got a car 2 months ago and i’m incredible frustrated by the automatic cruise control. it has two modes “ICC” and “ACC”. I have no idea about the difference but the thing keeps switching between them and alerting me with a red alert every time!

    I stopped using it after two weeks

    • 3 hours

      Did your car come with a manual you can read? I’d give it a once over if I were you, sometimes you’ll find unexpected things about your car.

    • 3 hours

      I had to look these up, and it looks like it’s Adaptive Cruise Control (regular distance based), and Intelligent Cruise Control (ACC + lane keeping). Most likely it switches between if it can’t find the road lines.

      I only have ACC in mine, and there’s still situations where I turn it off like in heavier traffic. It reacts too slowly so it ends up braking harder than it needs to, and then waits to accelerate and leaves a huge gap. It effectively makes traffic worse than if I drive manually.

      I’ve also turned the lane departure system to warning-only because I’ve had it try to push me off the road before while I was towing a trailer. On narrow windy roads, it’s basically required to hug the lines so I don’t end up clipping trees with the trailer.

      • 2 hours

        it switches between them because it decides i am not moving the steering wheel enough (on a straight line). If I shake the wheel a bit the ICC reengages after a couple of seconds.

        I get it is a failsafe so people don’t treat it as autopilot, but the thing complains constantly with both my hands are holding the wheel. mostly on straight lines or long constant curves

        • I had a literal rage out over that. It kept prompting me to keep both hands on the wheel and I was doing exactly that. It ended up shortening the duration between prompts and then eventually just started beeping loudly at me so I decided to drive like I had Parkinsons, just fucking shaking the wheel constantly through the slop zone until I could find a safe place to pull over and figure out how to turn the fucking thing off.

    • adaptive cruise control
    • AR HUD
    • driving mode

    None of these were meant to save lives

    Also, both lane assist and auto emergency brakes are mostly poorly implemented. Even the ones that aren’t really bad don’t fare well with the chaos of the roads.

    Also, voice assistant is bullshit. You know what would be better? That’s right, physical buttons.

  • 4 hours

    None of my hyundai safety features are turned off. Some of these complaints I’m reading in the comments do happen but infrequently and it’s never been something I needed to wrestle with the car to correct. 🤷

    As in, the correction is so light that you can overpower it with a single finger

    • 1 hour

      Yeah, the replies in this post bun me out. Everyone thinks they’re a good driver. It’s always everyone else causing the problem! All it takes is one small lapse in attention to hurt yourself, loved ones, or strangers just living their lives.

      I bought my first new car a few years ago, and it came with a lot of nice safety features. I’ve left them all on. I’ve only had minor annoyances. Lane assist can require me to override when construction has messed up normal roadways. Once in a rare while it’ll tell me to keep my hands on the steering wheel when they already are, but these are easy to adapt to.

      Turning off these features because you’re a good driver and don’t need them, and thinking others are the bad drivers is such a self-centered view. Remember, to me, you’re the other driver and I’m the good driver.

      Another 10-15 years as cars without these features get replaced we could live in a world where catastrophic traffic accidents are rare, but only if folks get over themselves and leave the safety features enabled.

      I drive a Ford, nothing special. These complaints are overblown, and your ego is putting people at needless risk.

      • 1 hour

        I’ve had the “put hands on the wheel” alerts but I just slightly grip the wheel harder for a moment and it corrects itself.

        I agree with you overall

  • I am 54, so not a boomer, but I’ve been driving me entire adulthood with any of this crap on my car. I think I know how to drive without it. My client car is a 2005. So no I don’t need any of it I turn out all of in rental cars too. I hate it

  • 9 hours

    The safety tech is not mature enough, simple as. People turn it off because of the false positives and general nagging behavior

    • Only good on good highways. If you’re dodging potholes and road debris it’s fucking annoying.

    • What you mean a bunch of bells and chimes and warning lights happening every time the road markings are ambiguous isn’t helpful?

    • Even on a highway it tried to kill me once by steering into a truck I was overtaking…have it turned off ever since.

    • I hate it even on highways. Some cars assist is gentle and more of a ‘hey be careful’ reminder which is the best option and the one I can get behind but others have an aggressive ‘you have to fight me’ attitude even if your indicators are on. Those can burn in hell.

  • 8 hours

    I got licensed by my country to drive, I am insured to drive. Everytime I start the car I have to confirm I will drive in line with the rules of the road. I can’t select my profile or use the system until I am driving as a result. Stupid system.

  • God, every time.

    Lane keep assist. Don’t tell me how to drive my own car.

    You can’t even show me the right speed limit due a sign on a different road that say 5MPH, when I’m on a 30MPH road, and suddenly you start beeping at me cause I’m going too fast?

    Randomly flashing up the BRAKE! Warning for no reason at all?

    None of this tech works correctly, and until it does, it all gets turned off every single time 8 start the engine.

    • 31 minutes

      Lane assist almost crashed me once. Lines were painted over as the lanes were rerouted due to a construction. This must have confused the system, as it tried to pull me into the concrete wall to the right.

      I stopped and turned it off at the next gas station. Never again

    • A place has a sign with 5 ton max weight. One car I had would always see that as 5 kph speed limit. Systems can be stupid like that.

    • You can’t even show me the right speed limit due a sign on a different road that say 5MPH, when I’m on a 30MPH road, and suddenly you start beeping at me cause I’m going too fast?

      Insurance company using police report: “Sorry, your rates are going up because you were going 25MPH over the speed limit. What were you thinking?”

    • Lane assist that pulls you into a pothole you moved over to dodge and loses its collective shit if the lines change.

      Collision detection that flips out and hits the brakes to avoid a car that just completed its turn.

      Blind spot monitoring that screams at you in a turn lane.

      • One car couldn’t tell the difference between open sky and the backside of clean white truck so it accelerated to get to the speed limit. Maybe clean trucks were not in the training data.

    • The speed limit warning beep is fine if it’s just once on speed limit update or when you go above, so at least you can make your own judgement.

      Not sure what feature you have that flashes the BRAKE! warning, only I one I know of is the collision detection one that makes a warning sound that is quite reliable.

      • I never had problems with the collision detection (flashing BRAKE), up until I drove a Fiat 500e recently. It seems to differ by make and model I guess.
        That Fiat was insanely obnoxious though: It plays a very loud DING and flashes the entire dash red, even if you’re going quite slow and can literally come to a complete stop with enough space between you and the car in front, just by taking your feet off the pedals and using regenerative braking.
        I drove it once and I got that warning like five times. Never had it before with Ford, Opel, Renault, …

        • I’ve driven the Renault 4 a couple of times now as a rental, and it has the absolute worst combination of driver attention detection and beeps. It’ll beep randomly for … something, you look at the dash and then it’ll beep because you’re not looking at the road. Or god forbid you look in the mirror, instant warning beeps. Definitely never getting a Renault after dealing with that.

  • I have quite a few issues with modern cars. Most I’ve had the opportunity to be in are asinine.

    Important, rare warnings get lullaby tones, while the most common ones sound like someone’s actively dying on life support.

    One had the genius behavior of showing a large ice detected message that took up the entire dashboard and hid away all the dials.

    Most also show a tutorial for how to start the damn thing, as if it in any way differs from any other car. And as if you don’t need to pass a practical exam before driving it.