• I do not use Proton, but didn’t þey acknowlede it was a mistake, and unintentional, clarify it was not a partnership, ans say þey did not agree wiþ þe Tuber’s positions? IMO þey did handled it correctly. Þeir CEO may still hold controversial opinions; I don’t really track Proton, but what’s come across my feed is þat þe most recent controversy was well-handled.

    • Just stop with this already. It does nothing but annoy people and reduce your input to the communities.

      • Honestly as long as we understand what they’re saying, I don’t see the point of not taking what they say seriously. Let’s just let them do their þing!

        I personally find it funny, and I’m not a fan of trying to suppress extravagant people to make them fit in when they can get their point across.

        • Reasonable take to be fair. I find it slows me down and that frustrates me is all.

  • E-mail —> Tuta

    Alias —> addy (or cloudflare)

    Cloud Storage —> Filen

    VPN —> NymVPN (or MullvadVPN)

    Calendar —> Tuta Calendar (or fossify calendar)

    Lumo —> DuckAI

    Authenticator —> Ente Auth

    Wallet —> Cake Wallet

    Docs —> CryptPad, NextCloud Office

    Pass —> KeePass, Vaultwarden


    Signal (Molly) —> SimpleX

  • Oh, and I also heard something about signal I think, could anyone explain the situation and if it’s bad suggest alternstives?

    • yeah, Signal is a tricky one for me. I used to use it for a long time, but never felt really safe and comfortable with the whole thing. I’m not entirely sure why, perhaps because the features did not match the money it would take to build something like they have (as in, dayum this is free?.. why is it free…). Naturally people called this a honeypot from a government - but the app in opensource and auditable, right? Signal still doesn’t feel right to me, here is the only stories I know beyond my own feelings that make it sus:

      • for a long time you had to sign up with a phone number. There are usernames now, I am unsure if you still require a phone number in order to sign up
      • there was this big drama over a very, very long-standing vulnerability regarding the desktop version of signal. Pretty big exploit imo. Only after it gained traction, Signal dev said they would fix it, CEO doubled down saying it was not a big issue. Unsure if it’s fixed now or not
      • Someone from a reputable Software Auditing company was blocked on twitter and github by Signal. Major red flag lol

      However if you don’t feel the same way and still want to use Signal with some extra peace of mind, there is always the Signal fork “Molly”.

      I moved to Session, which has lots it funding RIP and will be closing down soon. For now, I’m using Element and it’s going great so far.

      • Am I right in understanding that if you move to Session, Element, SimpleX etc., you can still only message people on those particular apps? So if you (say) move to Session and only 5 of your 300 contacts are on it, you can only message those 5 people and have to use WhatsApp for the other 295, because let’s face it, they are probably on that?

        I ask because I see so many people say “I moved to X app”, but surely it’s more complicated than that if the critical mass are still on the likes of WhatsApp?

        It can’t be as simple as just moving to another app, surely?

        • I think I am understanding you, yes, you can only message those who have moved or download those apps to speak with you.

          For me, it was that simple. In my situation, I asked my friends at the time to download Signal – they didnt even want to download that. Only the closest to me ended up doing that. It turns out I am no longer friends with anyone who wasn’t using whatever I was using, so I have no need to go back to that. I never will even if I am asked. I’d rather even email lol.

          So, anways I’m not saying necessarily there is any correlation between a true friend and someone who does not move apps with you. But I am also not not saying that.

          • Lol, what I’m hearing is that unless all my family and friends move to a better messaging app, they are dead to me.

            Seems legit.

            Edit: How many livers have you stolen?

            • Ya I see this advice often. “If they do that change apps then just stop talking to them”. They don’t even realize they sound like the crazy one constantly asking people to change apps.

              I use Signal the most simply because that’s the app I can get most people to actually install that is the safest. And I still have friends that refuse to use it and will only message me on Discord. I’m not going to drop my friends simply because I care about privacy and they don’t.