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- prettybunnys@piefed.socialEnglish3 hours
Hot for much of the USA, not unheard of but still not to be fucked with heat.
- 2 hours
It’s funny, you still see people having a shot about it not being that hot.
That’s a blistering day in Queensland, where I am. With our normal humidity, it kills. I’d imagine Florida would be a good comparison. Sure, I’ve routinely felt 44-45C in summer but fucking hell, in Germany that is truly insane
A comparison would be an above 45C day here.
The other issue too is UV level and how unaccustomed they are to tolerating and preventing that.
- prettybunnys@piefed.socialEnglish2 hours
This may be a dumb question but is the UV level necessarily changed by the heat dome?
I honestly have no idea ay, it’s not my science. I should add as well, we’re currently being battered by solar activity on top of the heat in the northern hemisphere.
I do know the southern hemisphere has higher instances of UV exposure due to it facing the sun more directly in summer.
- fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vipEnglish8 hours
i get to say this every year
but it’s the coolest summer of the rest of our lives
- UnfortunateShort@lemmy.worldEnglish36 minutes
The neat thing is: It’s a record high. It was literally never this hot before.
Not that these discussions are about facts at all, but now you have one to confront them with.
- DevDave@piefed.socialEnglish7 hours
just need to hang on for a bit longer and when AMOC fails the heat waves will be a much lower priority! \s
- 43 minutes
See, if that happens, it will cause extreme cold in winter which basically makes up for the heatwaves in summer! Checkmate liberals /s
3 hoursThe irony, reuse Ugandan refugee camps for Northern European post AMOC glacial refugees. Also /s
- 10 hours
“Fun” fact: this heat wave already has a Wikipedia page that also shows of the 22 affected areas only four (Austria, Jersey, Slovakia and Slovenia) have not (yet) recorded a record high temperature.
- 10 hours
Not to be disrespectful to the Germans who are suffering, but maybe now they will not support coal power plants.
- 9 hours
Germany reopened coal mines cause it was too scared of alternatives like nuclear. To me that’s like stabing yourself with a knife cause you are afraid of a bug bite
- 4 hours
sry but german nuclear power plants were a mismanaged mess and their closure probably saved lives. all power plants along the rhine river leaked thousands of tobs of irradiated water into the environment, same goes for those at the neckar. those are the ones i know for a fact.
they were outdated. mismanaged and ticking time bombs and it was time to put them to rest, maybe not that quick but better than never.
building new power plants just doesn’t make sense because renewables are just WAYYYY cheaper in the long run aswell as the fact nobody wants to build or run a power plant. that’s just an afd and markus söder pipedream.
solar/wind is about 7ct/kwh after investments while nuclear fuel is at about 35ct/kwh
our renewable output is almost doubling every year despite the cdu government’s best efforts to turn back to coal because reiche is a board member of E.On.
Fuck germany but their nuclear exit was a net positive.
- 2 hours
all power plants along the rhine river leaked thousands of tobs of irradiated water into the environment, same goes for those at the neckar. those are the ones i know for a fact.
Do you actually have proof/a source for that?
- 6 hours
To me, your take is completely uninformed, so allow me to enlighten you. When Russia attacked Ukraine, oil prices spiked and conservative media were trying to cause a panic that Germany hadn’t enough natural gas to get through the winter. Tangent: The natural gas levels are much lower today than they ever were 2022, but because we now have a conservative government, conservative media doesn’t care. Anyway, because the start of the Ukraine war was such a volatile time and to assuage any fears, the last government decided to give the last 3 operational nuclear power plants a 6 month extension and to bring back coal power plants as backup. And that is what they ever where. A backup. And building nuclear power takes decades and costs billions. They help neither in the short-, nor long-term.
Afaik after Fukushima they abandoned nuclear no?
After the March 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster and subsequent anti-nuclear protests, the government announced that it would close all of its nuclear power plants by 2022.[7][8] Eight of the 17 operating reactors in Germany were permanently shut down following Fukushima.
While nuclear power was gradually phased out of the German power mix, Germany increased its use of fossil fuel energy by 7% over the period 2002–2022, with a massive increase in usage of natural gas and only modest reductions of coal power and oil power.[9] By some estimates, Germany could have achieved a 73% reduction in its carbon emissions by retaining nuclear power during the period 2002–2022 and could have saved €696 billion on its energy transition.[9]
- 6 hours
Yeah well, that’s the conservative government for you. We could’ve just as easily transitioned from nuclear to renewables, which don’t have the nuclear waste problem that is still unsolved. And Germany was for a brief time leading renewable energy innovation. But when the conservative government was faced with the cost of providing the infrastructure for this up-and-coming industry branch of the future, they instead cut all funding. This directly lead to the downfall of the German renewable sector (“Altmaier-Delle”). So while you are correct, when taking into account the entire time span from 2002, that Germany increased its reliance on coal and natural gas especially, it is incorrect to say that not sticking with nuclear was the sole reason for this. Betting on renewables was absolutely feasible even back then, as the current boom of renewables aptly demonstrates. But the conservatives do what conservatives do best: Stifle the future by fearing the up-front investment cost and sticking to the old and familiar instead of betting on the new and future-proof, even when the old way of doing this has already been shown to be unsustainable.
- 8 hours
Username does not check out ^^
Very much detailed and to the point. Thanks for taking your time against false information matey ❤️
- 9 hours
That was 2023 to prevent an energy crisis triggered by the russian invasion in Ukraine and these coal plants (not mines!) were already shut down again.
And nuclear is not an alternative.
nuclear is not a. Alternative
Only because your entire country was brainwashed by Russian propaganda in the '90s. Germany used to produce 25% of its power from nuclear. As far as I can tell, currently you produce none from nuclear and still 25% from coal and another 25% from natural gas.
- 5 hours
Most of our fuel rods came from russia. Also, nuclear is prohibitively expensive, uninsureable, and has unanswered questions regarding permanent waste storage.
Renewables are the answer, not nuclear.
- realitaetsverlust@piefed.zipEnglish26 minutes
Most of our fuel rods came from russia.
Idk about that, but even if, but uranium is fairly abundant in the earth, more than gold or silver. Getting it from somewhere else is not a big deal.
nuclear is prohibitively expensive
Upfront, absolutely. But cost drop dramatically with life time of the plant.
uninsureable
That’s wrong. Nuclear Power Plants are incredibly safe. The security standards are immense and if everything is done by the books, nothing will happen.
Fukushima was a problem of risk assessment and massive complacency about procedures, where fundamental security protocols were ignored to “safe some money”. Also, building a nuclear power plant in an area that is facing tsunamis almost regularly was pretty dumb. And Chernobyl was a case of “What happens if we experiment with that hot rock we know nothing about?”
and has unanswered questions regarding permanent waste storage.
Yes, but it’s no longer as much of a problem. We’ve gotten really damn good at reusing burnt out fuel rods. I think we’re able to reuse like 60% of the burnt out fuel rods, dramatically lowering the waste we produce. And I once read about a theoretical processing method that could be able to reuse 95% of the rods, making the waste almost negligible. Even tho that processing method hasn’t been put to the test yet afaik.
Renewables are the answer
Probably not for germany. We don’t fulfill the requirements for widely used renewable power.
- Solar is the first choice, we’d need absurd amounts of space for solar panels. Also, it’s obviously only available during the day, making batteries necessary. And I mean a LOT of fucking batteries.
- Wind is great and widely available in the north of germany - but that doesn’t help the south. Moving power from north germany to south germany is incredibly inefficient and wasteful. Also has the battery problem.
- Hydro is cool, where available. Just bad that it’s barely available. Same with geothermal.
- Leaves us with biomass, which is a nice supplement to the power grid to use up waste from the agricultural sector - but it’s not going to carry germanies power needs in any meaningful way.
100% renewable energy is never going to be a thing for germany. It’s just a wishful thinking. We can’t magically produce vast amounts of power anywhere. We need a way to produce a reliable base load even in areas that are not in a great position for renewable power.
Nuclear is the best long term option we have.
- 3 hours
The answer is both. Germany really did fuck up closing those plants. Just like the US 🥲 and for more reasons than you know. Breeding plutonium wouldn’t be the worst idea at this point in history.
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Most of our fuel rods came from russia.
Not correct its Canada the USA France and the Swiss. https://wits.worldbank.org/trade/comtrade/en/country/DEU/year/2024/tradeflow/Imports/partner/ALL/product/284410
- 5 hours
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In fact: a vast part of German nuclear technology derives from Russia
In what reality do you live? Did you forget that all nuclear plants (ignore the single one in East Germany that was immediately shut down after reunification) were built in West Germany?
Yeah they definetly stole all that
RussianSoviet technology from the exploded reactor that lacked a freaking containment back in the 80s… Because Russia is not dependent on selling fissile material or renewables to support its war machine; it sells petrochemicals and will continue to do so into 2027 and possibly further as lawmakers continue to squabble.
https://www.dw.com/en/russian-gas-in-germany-a-complicated-50-year-relationship/a-61057166 https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/eu-russian-energy/
- 10 hours
And people still laugh at us for not having air conditioning in residential buildings. To be fair, you have to be a sort of clown to rent a place from greedy landlords, but this is 2026 we’re talking about, it’s the best I can do
- 10 hours
I don’t know why this BS is still upheld so firmly but nobody laughs about AC in residential buildings. And I personally never heard someone doing that even years ago before when heat waves in Europe were less common and less severe.
Also, this:
you have to be a sort of clown to rent a place from greedy landlords,
is an extremely priviliged and ignorant statemenr, wtf?
- 9 hours
I’ve seen plenty Americans bring up in discussions on how it’s funny that most Europeans still don’t have a proper AC or heat pump in their homes, when the past summers have been getting increasingly hot lately.
It’s common place now in new constructions but a lot of old landlords simply refuse to put down the tiniest investment into something like a split unit AC, especially since it raises the property value as well.
With the upcoming renewable energy laws they’ll have to do it sooner or later anyways, but instead I’m forced to make do with an arguably terrible mono unit AC for the time being. The clown being me in this case, sorry if it was interpreted wrong
- 9 hours
Wait, I misread your comment, thought you said “europeans laugh about americans having AC in residential buildings”.
But now I’m even more confused about what you’re trying to say…
- 8 hours
Just hijacking this because mono-unit:
A buddy of mine has the PortaSplit. Its suitable for renting places and is not a mono-unit.
He’s veery happy with it. But its sold out everywhere.
There’s even a map ^^
