• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    11 months

    Counterpoint:

    The reason they will be out of touch is that they will have better impulse control and better spending habits than kids raised on modern games with their FOMO MTX and gacha bullshit.

    So basically, actual ‘nerds’ are rasing another generation of ‘nerds’, except this time, nerds 2.0 will probably actually be more socially intelligent than the brain dead zombies being raised on fornite, roblox and tiktok, who have negative attention spans and cannot fathom the concept of doing any actual thought-work, when chatgpt can just do their homework for them.

    They’ll also be more tech savvy, like being exposed to or having to learn at least some of how emulation works, which kinda de facto makes you understand things like a file structure, which an increasing number of kids (now adults too) raised on modern mobile UIs… have no clue about.

    Oh, they’ll also likely just be generally more literate.

    • yermaw@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11 months

      You’re not kidding about file structure. I haven’t got a fucking clue how to do it with phones. Every thing is just “in here somewhere” and it’ll pray the search feature can find it when I eventually locate the file browser.

      I miss my PC

    • The Picard Maneuver@piefed.worldEnglish
      11 months

      it is like studying the life and culture of the past.

      I truly think stuff like this is important. Developing an appreciation and personal connection to cultural touchstones of the past is like a history lesson and familiarizes you with the life experiences of your parents/grandparents/etc.

  • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
    11 months

    God I tried. And it told me a lot out myself.

    The VAST majority of that old stuff, the stuff that I remember so fondly, was only fun because it was the best we had.

    My first game was Yars Revenge. By today’s standards, it’s about 30 seconds of entertainment.

    Even Super Mario Brothers, the pinnacle of games for years, had no save button and you have to pull off a long series of perfect play with only a couple of lives or get sent back to level 1. It was almost all single player taking turns.

    Compared to even old current systems, there’s just no draw there and there’s no social aspects for them.

  • I Cast Fist@programming.devEnglish
    11 months

    There are plenty of games up to the PS3 era that every kid would do well to play at least once. Stuff that is objectively good, that aged well, or close enough.

    The problem, as I see it, is that if they get too used to mobile games, they won’t have the patience for typical console or PC games, because those, on average, aren’t dopamine dispensers and won’t be rewarding every second click or button press - more importantly, they should NOT nag the player with cash shops.

    Also important: limit the amount of games available - this is valid both for current and retro games. The moment you have “all the games” at your disposal, several things kick in: analysis paralysis, appeal to familiarity (will only play what you already know or someone knows), seeing no value in the games[1].

    Others mentioned the social aspect, which is true as well and something they just can’t experience nowadays anymore. Minecraft and Roblox are famous because they’re easy for kids to pick and play with friends. Back in our days, we had to physically sit beside one another and play together, or pass the controller on death; we also physically lent and traded games, so the games also had value within our little social circles. While fully digital games are extremely convenient, the “scarcity” gave them a social value that they completely lack today and which I suppose boardgames now fill out (yes, you can play them online, but playing on an actual table is almost always better)

    1. If, when you were small, you only had a limited selection of games, which was common during the cartridge era, you would be very careful with choosing new games to ask your parents to buy, though renting was an option to see which ones were good or not. You had to make do with the little you had. When you got bored with one, you either looked through your collection and played something else, or did something else entirely; you never threw away a game (unless it really sucked) and you never got a new game on a whim. That is good. ↩︎

  • cRazi_man@europe.pubEnglish
    11 months

    Shit this is what I’m doing. My kids are nuts about the niche indie games I play. My son has crazy good skills for Super Meat Boy and Super Hexagon.

    The other one loves Mario games from the 3DS.