- Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
May they forever live in existential fear and require personal security for the rest of their pathetic lives
The datacenter growth model has to stop now
The financial markets are starting to punish companies for throwing everything into AI
- timestatic@feddit.orgEnglish1 month
If the financial markets were doing that then AI companies and infrastructure would falter right now. Its not
- NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.netEnglish1 month
“The economy’s going great! Just look at how much money everyone has! See those gas prices! See that water? Its poisoned with industrial runoff and they STILL pay for it! They must have SO MUCH MONEY !!!”
- 87Six@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
It’s not really that clear cut.
The financial markets have a tendancy to keep propping up bullshit until said bullshit explodes harder than it was ever supposed to. See 2008
1 monthGood. These execs fucked with our lives and killed a lot of people. Let’s see how they like living in fear of retaliation.
- vladmech@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Are you willfully obtuse or have you not been outside in the last five years…?
- vladmech@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
What an extreme goal post shuffle from “what does Facebook have to do with AI” where there are innumerable examples of Zuck’s stupid post Metaverse bullshit to “just link me an article where the terminator crawled out of a data center and killed Americans”. I’m trying to see how you’re arguing in good faith and coming up so blank.
Aah, the mass delete of comments by the person who made them only makes it even more sweet. You can’t handle being wrong so instead of sticking by what you say (which is dumb in itself) you delete the comments because you’re downvoted and that you are objectively wrong. You seriously only put another nail in the coffin by removing the comments.
Absolutely hilarious!nah you guys are basically trump supporters but wearing blue instead of red, it gets tiring arguing with you
- WanderingThoughts@europe.pubEnglish1 month
They were using sci-fi as their inspiration and the hype for selling their stuff and never bothered to also check the downsides portrayed in the same literature. It’s a classic gonk move to be expected from corpo scum.
Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale
Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don’t Create The Torment Nexus
- WanderingThoughts@europe.pubEnglish1 month
CEO two years later: Thank you for having me on this podcast. After the stock price plunged, the board gave me choice of being sued for criminal negligence or a transfer. So I was uploaded to the Torment Nexus for on site management. Who knew this place was so terrible?
- 1 month
No, they aren’t terrified. These people think they are demigods. I’ve seen it in plent of senior vice presidents even. It’s almost a job requirement at this point. Body guards make them feel even more important, and the company pays for it. Plus… that other tech bro has it, so I should too. That’s just the type of people we are dealing with.
- Raiderkev@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
It’s in my post history somewhere. Long story short, I was driving a limo for a company that transported his VC firm’s people. I was assigned to drive his luggage from the Private Jet to his home. He got off and went with my colleague who was transporting him. I was standing next to the other driver and tried to shake his hand and introduce myself and he walked right past my outstretched hand and got in the car without a word. The only luggage I was asked to transport was a single backpack. So he bought a whole separate car to transport a fucking backpack that he couldn’t be seen carrying. I really wonder if there was something illegal in there, but who knows? I never peeked. When I arrived at the home, I followed Thiel and the other driver into the home, and got scolded by the staff (likely illegal immigrants btw) because I didn’t use the service entrance. At the time, he wasn’t known as a mask off fascist and I had visions of grandeur about parlaying this into a job at his company since I was fresh out of college. Instead I got a cold shoulder and a scolding. Fun times
TIL that someone tried to firebomb Sam Altman. Hero! ✊
BTW, such reactions are partly self-inflicted:
As the fight over AI data centers heats up, some polls have shown that AI is less popular with Americans than Immigration and Customs Enforcement. People fear that AI will result in mass layoffs, a further consolidation of wealth and power, or even a catastrophic apocalypse — outcomes that many leaders in the AI industry have issued warnings about.
In an effort to make AI more appealing, one should add.
- Burninator05@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
…someone tried to firebomb Sam Altman.
That guy wasn’t trying to firebomb anything. He was following ChatGPT’s receipe for risotto. He can’t be blamed for simply following the instructions that he was given.
- eestileib@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 month
Tech execs have had armed bodyguards for a long time. There was a scandal in Santa Clara county where the sheriff accepted bribes to issue concealed-carry certs for bodyguards.
- BeMoreCareful@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
I think there’s another place in Arizona or something, with shocking amounts of sherriffs. Off duty leo don’t haveany firearms restrictions at all.
- BeMoreCareful@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Yeah, it’s more for travel. I doubt any have been in the state. So they can take guns on planes or to church idk
- AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
This has actually been happening since Luigi. Especially tech CEOs. The companies actually started paying for them.
I first ran into it in a class a couple years ago, the dude running was talking about how our group was the first group of normies he’d seen. It was all silicon Valley C staff before, every one had a dude standing directly behind them who wouldn’t talk. We’re only hearing about it now, but they’ve been creating a new personal guard industry since the united Healthcare ceo got it.
The companies actually started paying for them.
Why am I not surprised.
Hot take: I believe most CEOs are secretely excited by having their own, paid-for bodyguards now.
- HerbGrower@slrpnk.netEnglish1 month
Huh that guy has armed guards. He must be important. Seems like a good target.
- obvs@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
What is the answer when the wealthy murder countless people but hide it by doing it indirectly?
How are people supposed to make them stop?
Because the murder that the wealthy are doing needs to stop.
Everyone who is not them needs it to stop.
- FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
When does it stop being murder and become social justice? One does not become a billionaire without exploiting others in some way unfairly
- TheStaffmaster@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
when you get enough people to agree to actually pack up their squeamishness concerning homicide to go through with calling it “manslaughter in self defence.” At that point it becomes one of three things depending on who leads the charge: A civil war if the sycophants to the system have enough firepower to empower “loyalists” to fight for them, A Revolt if the people elevate one of their own, (most likely a leader in some grassroots org) or a Revolution if there are enough people already in power to rally the troops so-to-speak. It can morph to one of others others at any point though. Of the three, Revolutions tend to be the fastest if conducted surgically with some sort of Coup-d’etat scenario.
Idk, I’m personally not too concerned with what we call it as long as it happens.
- SethW@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
This is a well understood phenomenon well explored in many books with both nuanced and obvious answers, please ask your local librarian to direct you
- timestatic@feddit.orgEnglish1 month
Wrong, murder and violence isn’t the answer in a democracy. They work on LLMs, not on skinning children to the bone.
They work on LLMs, not on skinning children to the bone.
It requires a certain type of ignorance to not see how evil the likes of peter Thiel are.
In addition to how his products are literally killing children: He’s basically part of MAGA, actively destroying the USA. He has expressed horrid views over time, not the worst of which is that he doesn’t believe in democracy. (edit: and he has both the will and the money to put his views into practice)
So yeah, removing people like him is the answer, if we want to get back to a functioning State of Law. And since the US government is in cahoots with them, there’s not going to be a just trial. So what else to do?
- timestatic@feddit.orgEnglish1 month
The irony of “restoring a functioning state of law” by going self-judicial and killing people. The mental gymnasics are insane.
History proves me right. Germany after WW2 is one example.
Anyhow, I phrased it as a question and I’d prefer if we work on an answer to that. Elsewise it might seem like you don’t believe that the USA’s current regime is wrong.
- 1 month
The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants alike. These fuckwits are most certainly tyrants per my cultures definition using bribery, intimidation, and legal bullfuckery to build their stupid AI data centers. Oh also quite a few of them want to set up a tachno fascist dictatorship. So in summary hang em high and let the ravens feast apon their gallow corpses.
- NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.netEnglish1 month
“They only give compute services to the nazis, it’s not like they’re the ones dropping bombs on schools just becuase they designed the clanker that told them to”
https://izri.online/blog/pentagon-grok-military-strikes-iran-june-2026
Where is this democracy you speak of? Did you vote for your tax dollars to pay these companies to kill innocent kids for the crime of being born into the worst apartheid we’ve seen since the 40s?
- timestatic@feddit.orgEnglish1 month
This argument is obviously in bad faith. I’m for prosecuting criminals and rapists in the Epstein files. But generalizing all Tech CEOs to rape kids is bit of a stretch
- FoxAlive@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
When its over half of them, and the other half are literal natzis from south Africa or have some other kind of weird racist origin I think its pretty safe to say all of them.
Not to mention ALL of the major tech and ai companies have installed someone from unit 8200.
Its not in bad faith when the list of “good” tech ceos is under a handful.
isnt a part of the epstein files basically about skinning children to the bone
No. But there’s a conspiracy tale claiming Dems are pedovores, and I’m sure believers of that see it in the Epstein files too.
Just a re-hashing of the age-old blood libel conspiracy narrative.
- HerbGrower@slrpnk.netEnglish1 month
Sure but do we live in a true democracy, when the law protects the elite and not the many?
A functional democracy sounds like a cool idea. But we don’t have one. So if we can’t have it I guess I will laugh when billionaires die instead.
- IamBlank@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
Violence is a useful tool. What Luigi did was just. When reason, negotiation, a plea for empathy or sympathy fails and exploitation continues, violence is the answer.
- 1 month
I doubt it’s possible to reach a democracy without violence.
- timestatic@feddit.orgEnglish1 month
The state has a monopoly on violence which it should use within accordance to law to uphold the law and democracy. Self-justice is a huge problem in that regard
- FoxAlive@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
The LLMS convinced maybe 15+ kids to kill themselves. Claude told the us goverment to bomb a kids school.
I mean you’re kind of splitting hairs on what kind of child murder the LLMs are enabling.
- timestatic@feddit.orgEnglish1 month
I can use a hammer to kill a person. A suicidal person can buy a rope to hang themselves. Of course an AI is different in that it almost seems conscious and like its talking to you when its not. I’m not a lawyer or the company in question. But I don’t think this warrants banning the entire technology
- FoxAlive@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
First show me where I said we should ban them.
Second:
If you where to leave a loaded gun out on the table, and someone where to steal it off your table you would also be held liable for the crime because it wasn’t locked away in a gun safe unloaded.
LLMs are the equivalent of handing out a loaded gun to everyone for free, even if they adamantly don’t want one. People like Sam Altmann and elon musk who keep pushing for this garbage to be your therapist and the only way to interact with life should face serious consequences like life in prison, and the companies they run should get a fine that’s impossibly large to pay off just like how infowars got a 500billion dollar fine. Info wars and chatgpt are pretty much the same product.
- 0x0@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
Wrong, murder and violence isn’t the answer in a democracy.
You think you’re in a democracy?
Cute…
- minorkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 month
Yet they aren’t going to stop. If threats to their lives isn’t enough to slow them down, how much would it actually take for them to stop?
It would really suck to miss the CEO you were trying to hit and instead get one of the class traitors surrounding him =/
How would it suck? I mean, it may not give you a full point, but half a point is still something. Yeah, I’d like the full point, but I’ll take what I can with my terrible aiming skills.
- phutatorius@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
Remember what the Praetorian Guards would do when they demanded a pay raise and didn’t get one.
- DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
I mean killing them off works look at Luigi. That was just one of them
Im a little OOTL: Is it now proven “beyond reasonable doubt” that he did it, or did he even confess? What’s the punishment? If not, where is he and how’s the story going?
- Sunflier@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Im a little OOTL: Is it now proven “beyond reasonable doubt” that he did it
His state murder trial is scheduled for September 8. His federal trial has been postponed so the lawyers can focus on the state case.
Thanks! A sober article.
Weird to have him tried twice for the same offense, but then a lot of things in the US law system are weird to me.
Mangione has pleaded not guilty to state and federal charges
I see. But the evidence from his backpack does seem overwhealming. OTOH I don’t see why he wouldn’t throw the pistol away… well, that’s all just speculation. I for one wish him well and I can see an argument for not guilty even if he did kill that CEO.
- Sunflier@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Weird to have him tried twice for the same offense, but then a lot of things in the US law system are weird to me.
2 different soverigns - 2 different cases
But the evidence from his backpack does seem overwhealming.
The stuff from the backpack was suppressed since the police didn’t have a warrant
- timestatic@feddit.orgEnglish1 month
This murder is no saint. Self-judicial actions don’t deserve praise.
- Sunflier@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Self-judicial actions don’t deserve praise.
Depends on the context. Use of deadly force in defense of self/others can be acceptable and legal.
- timestatic@feddit.orgEnglish1 month
Yes but only if the threat is urgent and there are no other ways to protect your life. I would argue there are ways and self-defense is explicitly not self-judicial. If you are cornered and fighting for your life while someone is trying to kill you thats a whole different circumstance.
- Sunflier@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Yes but only if the threat is urgent
The ongoing and systematic denial of life-saving and necessary care to people in favor of profit, especially since those who are contracted to provide care just
politically donatebribe their way into setting things up so care is denied isn’t urgent? Seems like fighting the systematic early-extermination of workers has some similarities to the resistance networks that fought the Nazis. Not a 1:1 overlap, but there seem to be similarities.- timestatic@feddit.orgEnglish1 month
I believe your representatives could do something if people started voting in their best interest. And class action lawsuits also have existed for a while. Justice is tedious. Not everyone has equal resources I acknowledge that. A basic social safety net in a first world country should be the standard. Even if you can’t pay insurance the public hand should help you when you’re down. Many first-world countries already do this. A CEO is just one cog in a machine. Kill him which hurts his family and friends, and they will be replaced. The issue is systematic. CEOs aren’t the one to blame, the laws and political system are. People need to organize and not wait for one individual with vengeance to take out CEOs. If a CEO doesn’t perform shareholders replace them. Pure capitalism is fucked which is why many Scandinavian and western European countries combine it with social policies. Demonizing anything so called “communistic” because it improves peoples lives just because it takes the best aspects of socialism and combines it with capitalism is the problem. The general populous in the US is too conservative and resistant to change. And the example I was giving is legal for situations where you fight against an aggressor for your life. Even if I had cancer and UHC denied to give me healthcare treatment killing the CEO wouldn’t immediately resolve my issues with denials. The policies applied are horrible but that doesn’t justify murder. You can argue with systematic mass-murder and I understand the concern but the whole system is the problem. I hope bad publicity deters anyone from going with their healthcare plans plans now. My point also wasn’t meant to discuss Luigi Magione and the murder of UHC CEO Bryan Thompson but more related to AI CEOs
- Sunflier@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
I believe your representatives could do something if people started voting in their best interest.
Both parties are bought and paid for by the same plutocrats.
A basic social safety net in a first world country should be the standard
The United States is a third world shithole that mascarades as first world (see bribes as previously mentioned).
The general populous in the US is too conservative and resistant to change.
Mandami shows that to be untrue. The Epstein class has merely kept the political system from ensuring the wellbeing of the population (see bribes above).
Even if I had cancer and UHC denied to give me healthcare treatment killing the CEO wouldn’t immediately resolve my issues with denials.
Maybe. Maybe it’ll change the calculation to make it too expensive to deny people care/living wages (See Paper Mario).
The policies applied are horrible but that doesn’t justify murder.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” -Kennedy
Soap box(See, e.g., Colbert and the like)Ballot box (watch the games that are already kicking off about this, especially with support from the bribes as previously mentioned)
Jury boxAmmo box
- 1 month
So the social murder that CEO was propagated would never be punishes and has been responsible for thousands of deaths a year. These people fleece us time and time again to the point where we’re on the edge of being able to survive. The only response at this point IS violence.
- busted_Anoose@aussie.zoneEnglish1 month
Im not going to mourn the loss of a faceless dipshit who’s sole job it is to deny insurance payouts and gatekeep medical services that should be funded by taxpayers and given at no cost to avoid them going bankrupt.
I would agree if the judicial system was doing their job and being fair. That is not even remotely the case, is it?
- BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish1 month
Studies show that not only did the justifiably executed Corporate Serial Killer’s health care company ease up on their denials, so did all the OTHER health care companies. I’ve read numerous reports by people who were struggling to get serious care for years, who were suddenly approved after justice was served.
Eventually, they went back to business as normal. That only demonstrates that we have to randomly execute a CEO every few months, just to keep them in line.
- halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish1 month
For a little bit. They figured it’s a one-off… And so far they e been correct.
But every bullshit denial could mean another.
- shiftymccool@piefed.caEnglish1 month
Maybe after 3 or 4 more. We should find out. Then add a few more for good measure
Armed bodyguards for billionaires are now pariahs. If you know one, isolate them, tell everyone who they are, and the boot they lick. More hated than the glassholes.
