Oh hi there person who I’ve upset by expressing my opinion who is now wanting to go back through my post history to find something to use against me! If you’re reading this, it’s because you’ve already lost the argument :)
Even if subsidised they would still be terrible as a work machine lol. The hardware is not good. Work machines are almost always i7s at a minimum.
Remember that these machines are neutered to keep under a tiny power draw.
The hardware is terribly overpriced for a work pc. There are many far superior work desktops for far cheaper.
Not a good one, that’s for sure. Should’ve just eaten the losses and cancelled it, or sold it at a big loss since they make money off every game it plays.
Hardware wise, the Series X beats this with ease. It’s not even close.
The streaming codec matters because it (265) is incredibly better and more efficient, which is what you want for streaming.
Intel NUCs have existed for like a decade at this point.
You’d be much better off just using moonlight from your pc to any other device, but seems like you want to buy it no matter the pointlessness haha. I’ve been there, but not at this price.
It’s not a cheap office machine though lol. At this price it’s a very expensive office machine with terrible specs.
And at the price that the 2TB model is, you’d be an idiot to buy it.
The performance is pretty bad when compared to the PS5 Pro, which is much cheaper.
The performance is terrible compared to the PS5 Pro. The performance is pretty bad when compared to the base PS5, which is half the price.
It can absolutely be upgraded
Not in any way that matters. It has a non-upgradeable SoC. You can’t just take out the CPU or GPU and replace them.
I just want a streaming box that I can play light games on.
If that’s what you want, get an apple tv or shield tv lol.
If I don’t game on it, I might swap the Linux version and use it for work.
But…why? There are much better small form factor PCs for significantly cheaper than this.
I like gaming on my PC, but I much prefer playing certain games on the big screen in the living room
These things aren’t mutually exclusive. My PC is hooked up to my 75" tv in the games room.
With the specs of this steam machine, the last thing you would want to do is play it on a big screen lol. It will look atrocious. To even hit barely playable framerates you have to run at basically ultra low settings at 720p and use FSR3 (vomits) to get it back up to 1440p.
But I know multiple people who already have a high end computer who would also like this for their living room.
Why? High end computers can also go in the living room. You can also simply stream your high end computer to other devices if you don’t want to do that, or put HDMI cables in the walls.
Going from a high end gaming PC to this, which struggles to do 720p/30fps in AAA games, would be a nightmare.
This is for people who don’t have a nice and powerful desktop.
You can build a significantly more powerful desktop that is also upgradable for less than this. This price renders it absolutely useless and no one should buy it.
$750 is still about $250 too expensive for what it is and the performance it has.
I tried telling people it will be over $1000 on all the forums and discussion sites I’m on, and no-one would believe me lol.
I’m surprised people think $1,100 is expensive for a gaming PC, even outside the crazy memory market now.
$1100 isn’t expensive for a gaming PC. It is, however, expensive for this gaming PC because it’s so incredibly underpowered and non upgradeable that it may as well not even be called a gaming PC. This thing struggles hard to hit playable framerates in current gen games. Even at 720p they’re struggling to hit 30fps. For “next gen” games it’s basically going to just be left in the dark, won’t even be able to play them. The memory bandwidth is terrible, the 8GB VRAM is terrible, the CPU is terrible, and the GPU is literally scraping the bottom of the barrel.
At this exorbitant price it’s DOA. It’ll no doubt sell out because of the steam fangirls buying anything valve throws at them, but they’ll be producing so few of this thing that selling out will mean nothing. They should have cancelled this as soon as they couldn’t launch it for $500.
If people only need a browser and office suite and adobe, a $200 computer will do that just as well. No need to spend USD$1000.
There is basically no use case for this machine at the price that it is.