Not when it is trusted regardless

It wasn’t a question, it was an attack.

As I said, go do your bad faith propaganda somewhere else.

Yeah, more loaded questions, fucking sealioners.

For the sake of it I’ll explain, even though I’m obviously wasting my time:

• “outcome” of what? You’re asking questions with holes hoping that I’ll fill them for you
• AI code is not the same as AIs, you are mixing two different things together that weren’t, in the initial discussion
• “return to a pre-AI world” is worded to make it sound like “going back to the past before AIs”, that’s absurd and also tries to make it sound like the future has to have AI, all we can do is to delay the inevitable. That’s bullshit. The idea of destroying AI is to reach a “post-AI” word but that wording doesn’t fit your narrative
• we weren’t talking about beliefs of what is the likely outcome, but about what is the end goal. On top of that, why would it have to be likely? The nazis getting pushed back by the resistance was an unlikely outcome, and yet no one with a brain would say that it was stupid to resist. Morals are not about likelihood, they’re about what is acceptable and what is not.

All in all, you’re not talking in good faith, which is what I was expecting. Go do your AI propaganda somewhere else.

“I don’t care about morals”, an opinion shared by the greatest people in the world.

I don’t think I have to prove my point any further, you’ve done a great job of proving that you can’t even be a decent human being, so reason is obviously far out of your reach.

It’s weird that so many people that would only fit on twitter or facebook end up here… Did you get banned out of both and found lemmy mentioned somewhere?

Yes it does, it shows that you have no motivation.

Also it’s easier to get rid of AIs (in the current meaning of the expression) than to get rid of nazis, as people don’t need datacenters to be nazis.

Lmao.

“For the anti-nazis here, what is the end goal?”

Simple: getting rid of a horrible shit that is on its way to destroy the world.

This is not a stupid question, it’s a fucking stupid loaded question that can fuck off of here.

People that criticize the use of Wikipedia are generally doing so to intentionally be manipulative. They use the vague confusion around how Wikipedia works to make it look unreliable, then imply that it makes whatever you say wrong.

Generally, it is a fascist take, because fascists hate the idea of a community-based anything. If there is no central authority/boss, then they hate it.

AI is seen as the opposite, it is this one magic entity that you refer to and tells you whatever you want to hear and leads you to believe that they are amazing. Which coincidentally is what all fascist politicians do.

Anyone that considers LLMs to be anything else than worthless has opinions that are as worthless anyway, so I’d advise ignoring them.

Yes, but there’s no such huge body. Just a bunch of studies funded by the meat industry, versus overwhelming evidence.

Still waiting for your comment on the morality of having a gigantic industry made to murder sentient creatures, just for the (im)possibility of a potentially slightly better health.

Yeah you’re typically the kind of case that I was referencing.

You’re denying a scientific consensus based on a couple isolated “studies”. Cherrypicking is not going to lead to any reasonable result.

And then you just start doing some dietary whataboutism, which is something I had yet to witness. Carbs could be deadly, it wouldn’t change the fact that meat is bad for health.

You’re typically in the second category of what I was mentioning about alcoholics here, the category that refuses to face reality and goes to delude themselves into even believing the opposite of reality, that their addiction is actually good for health.

And on top of that, you conveniently ignored the part where I mention that murdering sentient beings for your personal health and comfort is a pretty immoral take. Once again, not surprised.

Cancer is rarely healthy but sure. And I’m not sure why carbs are suddenly in the middle.

Also I’m pretty sure the animals that produce the meat would say that it’s not all about health, but well…

The amount of alcoholics in comment sections like this is crazy.

Half of the people are basically saying “I’d rather die that stop alcohol”, the other half tries to cope by saying that all of these things about the dangers of alcohol are either false or exaggerated.

Even the crazy meat lovers are not that extreme.

It’s been like that for years if not decades though.