Yliaster

Forgot the /s

Did we have another Luigi or something?

What are you even saying? Preventing independent journalism is oppressive towards the working class now? Censoring the media is oppressive towards the working class?

If you’re not defending repression, then please call it what it is: repression.

My point is that the forms of oppression that occur in China aren’t exclusive to the capitalist class, and remain something I oppose.

Which stands.

They’re still banning TV shows/clips that feature queer stories or characters, there’s been literal police raids where people have been asked to remove rainbow articles of clothing, rainbows are censored on TV. This is all very recent stuff within the past five years.

Idk man, seems like they’re desperate to erase our existence if you ask me.

Even if it’s not “as bad” as it once was, and if it “has potential”, that’s not where it is right now. Which is that it’s an oppressive place for queer people right now, factually. Stop defending that.

China isn’t the perfect haven free from all criticism that some people make it out to be.

I’m not trying to fuss over what to call something. My intended point stands.

Dictatorships that operate regardless of the will of the people such as Russia also “report high rates of approval”.

You got caught with a good analogy and you’re defaulting to claiming I’m a racist randomly to hide behind.

Surveillance and political suppression for one. Media, journalism, etc.

https://www.equaldex.com/region/china

Please take a look through this page that elaborates on the oppression of queer people under the Chinese regime before you make any more personal attacks or assumptions about me. Just as an example.

Ah yes because government-manufactured numbers hold value— you must think Russia is a democracy too, no?

Oh, and now I’m racist. Great. Critiquing a state means I’m racist. Logical.

I have nothing against Chinese people. If you’re defending things like suppression, I don’t care what colour you are, I don’t like that.

You can keep insisting I’m a troll if it helps you deal with not being able to engage with arguments.

China is authoritarian, but authoritarianism doesn’t matter to you, so that shouldn’t matter to you. Consistency, please.

And no, countries aren’t “authoritarian” by necessity. Even if some amount of policies etc that would be considered such exist everywhere, you have countries that are freer and countries that have more political suppression, censorship of media outlets, etc etc.

China does censor it’s media—political and entertainment— heavily. Just one small example.

I never said “you’re evil scary Chinese people”. The Chinese state however, is another story (authoritarian— but I know you’re apathetic towards authoritarianism). I realize now that this may be evoking some sort of nationalistic reaction out of you, though.

I didn’t “decide”— like I said, independent journalists and satellite imaging. And no, it’s not reducible to “Western evil scary propaganda” like you’re making it out to be.

I did make one, that you can oppose two things at the same time.

I could explain, but wait, you already said that authoritarianism was meaningless to you. If it doesn’t matter to you, well, seems pointless to try to convince that it is actually fascist.

Re: authoritarianism— your opinion.

Some of us aren’t in favour of oppressive regimes that aren’t transparent, surveil, and censor.

Nice argument.

No, it isnt. We have geographic evidence as well as countless testimonies of the Uyghur people.

For some reason when it comes to China/Uyghur muslims, people have no issue dismissing their genocide and thinking it’s okay.

“fake” Uyghur genocide, wow.

You can be against US and Chinese fascism simultaneously.