That is obviously not gonna happen even though the model hacked them. They would not poison their relationship with the biggest AI company over this. What would their goal with the lawsuit even be? It’s just a really bad thing to lean on if you want to find the truth. I would instead suggest: “I’ll believe it when OpenAI and HF get a lot of bad press written about them, talking about how insecure their systems are and how reckless OpenAI is when developing new models.”

Oh, that’s exactly what happened.

Do you think the OpenAI-HuggingFace hack was entirely made up, or just spun to make both companies look good despite the felonies?

You’re right that people can and do max out the expensive plans. Its very difficult to say how often. I just think a majority of anthropics customers are businesses, who often pay per token for easier scaling etc. According to the company, enterprise employees use about $150-$250 per month, (possibly max plans have similar use, which would support your view) but thats in API tokens which they probably have big margins on, so it’s less likely anthropic are burning money on inference. If you want to convince me otherwise, its not enough to say that it can happen, it has to be frequent enough to outweigh the B2B sales. They are however likely losing money overall due to training costs etc.

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But if you use the $100 a month Claude Max plan, and you would use it to the weekly limit by going full ‘agentic coding’ (so almost no human in the loop) you would use an amount of tokens that would cost you more than $1000 at API-pricing.

If I watch 600 movies every day on my netflix subscription I am using more energy than I pay them for. Obviously everyone is like me. Therefore they are losing money overall.

Wait, their (netflix) earnings say they made a profit last quarter. But my calculations were waterproof!

Probably anthropic are not net positive, but they are not spending 10x what people pay them for tokens.