LMAO this is not one of those. All Iranians I know (like 5) celebrated the US invading at first because it gave them hope that there might be a revolution. I was very skeptical that it would turn out that way because of how shit the USA is.

I’m not sure who you’re rooting for, but I’m pretty justified in my take, don’t you think?

Or are you going to tell me that all the people who emigrated and go back regularly have no clue and are victims of propaganda? That would be pretty chauvinistic of you.

Don’t take it personal, I’m talking about my general experience on Lemmy, not you in particular.

No, I’m skeptical of all propaganda that I can identify. USA, China, Russia, Israel, Germany, …

It’s hard to identify and I’m not perfect at it, but generally it’s a good role of thumb to assume that all atrocities are real. You seem to believe that all are but China’s, doesn’t that seem fishy to you?

Absolutely not, that’s exactly it. It’s hard to see through propaganda and I’m not perfect, but I know that all nations create it. USA, China, Russia, Israel, Germany, …

Iran is shit. The USA is shit. Why do you think I’d defend either?

I’ve been very clear in what I’m saying the whole time. You’re trying to debate.

I’m not criticizing the Chinese people or even China. I’m criticizing naive people who think systems like national governments don’t develop horrible outcroppings as part of self-perpetuation.

I’m not even saying that’s avoidable, i.e. I’m not saying that China could be much better. I’m just saying that it’s denial to ignore, downplay, or bury every bit of negative reality just because it’s caused by a source you want to defend.

No, I didn’t say either of these things, I think I’ve been pretty clear about that.

No

Please stop. As said in another reply to you: I’m not arguing China is bad for a state. But the government of any nation does fucked up shit. Maybe it’s necessary, maybe there was truly no way around it. I don’t know. But it is a reality you have to accept.

I’m not even saying that China is bad for a nation state. I’m just saying that bad shit is happening, state-sanctioned, in every nation state.

I’ve shown people drone footage, they don’t believe it. No evidence is enough for people who already made up their mind.

No, I got enough reasonable-looking but ultimately dubious canned responses. It’s weird that drone footage and other videos are enough to convince some people of bad things happening in countries they don’t like while the same level of evidence doesn’t have the same sway for bad things happening in countries they like.

I get that socialism can’t be perfect in a world so shackled by capitalism. I don’t get why some people convince themselves that China is a perfect example of socialism.

I’m really not in the mood to watch Very Convinced individuals try to e.g. ridicule violence protest suppression by calling it “tinyman square”.

Did you make this just to discredit me by vague association with a stoner hope looking dude?

I get where they’re coming from, China certainly gets a lot right. But some people here are denying that any of the bad parts exist and just unquestioningly glaze the government of a nation state.

Like why do they simp for a country so hard that the only thing separating them from a nationalist in that country is the fact that they never actually participated in its culture and have even less of a clue about the reality of living there?

Wrong, I’m an anarchist. I don’t believe any nation state has a great track record, and I’ve been 100% correct in this so far.

You can read it here: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?userId=3647224

It’s pretty funny how thin-skinned the mods of a few instances are. My takes aren’t even controversial, they’re just not wanted.

I said it that way because whatever scapegoat the right has chosen in a given decade is arbitrary. Might as well be the cat ears.

Unless you put stake into right-wing ideologues who hate Rust because it has many cat girl developers, there is no drama. And for the record, you shouldn’t, the hate peddlers make your life worse.

And great proof that Rust is free and independent is the fact that they still (carefully) do breaking changes (e.g. the slow rollout of the never type). If the corporate world would dictate its development, it’d never break existing code.