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6 daysHonestly, linux for me (yes I know where I am). Love the software and options, but holy shit is the fanbase incredibly opinionated and full of condescension about it. Also they don’t know how to shut the fuck up about it, and constantly bring it up where it doesn’t belong. Like its a personality trait to them or something.
- Funkt4st1c@lemmy.worldEnglish6 days
For many, it is. Autism, hyperfixation, and passion are needed to do something like create an OS from scratch, pick and choose any of the 3 to then use it in an incomplete state.
Id argue we’re finally at the point where you actually dont need any of those, just a willingness to learn and adapt
- 6 days
Definitely this! I lost my love of the show after the 4th season due to the fans.
- 6 days
Yeah, I kinda fell off around then as well. I started watching sometime around the end of season 2 airing, and I remember how fun and exciting it was. I’m not sure the show was meant to go on as long as it did. I think that’s a big problem with things getting popular too, is this desire to keep things going past their expiration date.
Credit where it’s due, Netflix does the limited series thing and I like that. Let’s state from the beginning: this is it. Now, Netflix also just cancels shows it shouldn’t, and that’s massively disappointing, so debit where it’s due too (that’s an opposite of credit but obviously not the right one but I can’t think of the word and I gotta wrap this thing up).
- 5 days
Thanks that’s definitely the word. Just had bankcards in my head for some reason, and time was of the essence.
- 6 days
The joke was that there was no joke, Rick is just being an asshole and disappointing everyone around him. But between that and the shezuan sauce incident, I realized the fandom has literally zero media literacy, they’re just clapping at shapes and colors.
- 5 days
Everyone’s media literacy, reading comprehension, ability to appreciate nuance or capacity to consider multiple non-mutually-exclusive ideas in their head at once is vanishing.
It’s actually so fucking depressing to see how many people who I agree with politically and ethically are also kind of stupid and seem to have peaked intellectually.
- 5 days
I don’t know if its gotten worse, we should expect it to have gotten better now that people consume more media than ever.
If judging from my trump-supporting, boomer extended family playing Jimmy Hendrix’s Star Spangeled Banner at a 4th of July cookout, it was always terrible.
These include people who are still mad at Jane Fonda and blame the vietnamese for defending themselves.
- 5 days
That, and the music episode (get schwifty?) are apparently wildly popular while also being the two worst episodes. Make it make sense.
- BreakerSwitch@lemmy.worldEnglish6 days
A lot of folks have watched the show and come to the conclusion that it’s an endorsement of their lifestyles which they view as similar to Rick at the start of the series, plus the extremely toxic behavior that comes along with the impression that you’re better than everyone and your intelligence justifies any behavior you are criticized for
- 5 days
Yeah. Used to be like that. What a shitty way to live. Denying any need to change by claiming superior intelligence over the people suggesting change, even though you’re desperately unhappy.
Rick and Morty.
Fallout.
Star Wars.
Magic (except my friends).
Absolutely every single anime I ever watched.
Terraria has a unusually thirsty fanbase that never fails to disgust me.
Did I mention Fallout?
Hot Take: Fallout the show is mid. Every season the actors try to save the script, but it dies anyway.
- Sidhean@piefed.socialEnglish5 days
Oh right, I had totally forgotten! I was wondering when 4 or 76 got so popular but the show fellout recently! That explains it pretty well lol.
- 5 days
Care to elaborate on the Terraria fanbase? I never got into the game, always liked starbound more, but I could not get from them anything besides condescension regarding any other 2d-survival-whatchamacall-this-genre games. It’s terraria or nothing else.
There is absolutely no problem with Terraria itself. It’s an amazing game and my critique wasn’t directed at the fandom as a whole but at the subreddit. It was a dwelling place for furry porn artists who can’t fathom the concept of a NSFW tag. Also the mods rolled with it. So when I opened the app there was a great chance of the top of my feed being shitty porn drawings. Which I do not enjoy.
I also just checked and yeah. It seems like it got worse.
- 5 days
Skoolies for me. A few years ago I bought a used school bus and started converting it into a motorhome. I made an account at the main forum (skoolie.net) because there were people there that actually knew useful stuff, primarily about metalworking (which I’d never done before) and the mechanical aspects of bus ownership (which I still don’t know shit about).
Surprisingly (or maybe not) skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers. There are exceptions but they always end up being driven away. The thought of going to one of the annual skoolie gatherings is nightmare fuel for me.
- NABDad@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers.
Years ago my dad bought an old school bus because he wanted to convert it into a motor home with private bathroom and a garage in the back for his motorcycle for trips to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
Apart from the fact that he never got around to doing any work on the bus and eventually gave up and unloaded it on someone, your description would have been completely accurate.
- 5 days
Your dad did the right thing. I got mine 95% done at the cost of tens of thousands of dollars and arthritis basically everywhere, just for the honor of paying $100 a month to park it at a U-haul lot. I know how to weld and rivet now, just as useless as the bus.
Definitely useful skills if you ever need to fix any metal furniture or make a metal structure.
- TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
all the people i have known in metalwork or maker spacers were all far-left and kept injecting their politics and insecurity about being ‘authentic’ and ‘cool’ into everything. it’s a major turn off.
i have no idea how heating up pieces of metal to merge them together or other stuff like that has anything to do with politics, but people can’t help themselves. Also these spaces in my experience… were all well-off white people desperately trying to ‘signal’ they were not like ‘white people’.
anyways, i take those kinda classes and hobby things at adult education centers and libraries and such… because no politics. a lot older crowd though but a lot less massive insecurity and injection of identity insecurity into everything. turns out the really cool people are the boring uncool ones.
- 5 days
insecurity about being ‘authentic’
This insecurity about being authentic has pervaded so many things, even absent any real political context. LIke people will suddenly whip out “You know, nachos aren’t really authentic Mexican food, they’re Tex-Mex cuisine.” Okay, what do you expect me to do in that situation, spit it out and go “Ugh, that’s disgusting!” Authentic or not, they’re still delicious. I totally get pursuing authenticity when you’re trying to preserve a culture and are worried it’s under threat, but it gets brought into absolutely ridiculous contents, often by people who have no real basis or authority to be the arbiters of authenticity for what they’re discussing in the first place as a way to try and make themselves seem more worldly.
What. Have you ever been to Texas? Queso is tex-mex. Nachos are something else. Queso is better.
- 5 days
Wasn’t really a competition, just for illustrating a point. I’ve only passed through Texas for a layover, but honestly, Texas as a state has zero appeal to me. I’d rather just go to Mexico for better versions of pretty much anything in Texas that’s remotely interesting to me, while avoiding a fair chunk of the things that make Texas so miserable a prospect to me in the first place.
Besides, Texans might have improved upon nachos at some point, but claiming you have a superior version doesn’t invalidate that nachos have already been widely accepted as a Tex-Mex dish. “Nachos are a Tex-Mex dish” is the opening to the wiki article on them, with 8 different citations to back up that claim.
Star Wars. It’s not perfect, and sometimes bad, but avoiding the fanbase gives me peace.
- 6 days
It’s not easy, but you can like them both and still dislike the fans.
It’s the rule of 3! For both Star Wars / Trek, I only like 3 movies / series!
I’m old school. For SW it’s the OG trilogy all the way. For Trek it’s TOS, TNG, and DS9!
Yes and the imperial legion was destroyed by a bunch of muppets with hand made forest weapons and log traps!
I actually liked the most recent star wars movie. there I said it.
- 4 days
I desperately hope you don’t mean episode 9.
Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, but damn, do you even like the rest of it? Or other sci-fi and fantasy in general?
The absolute disrespect of not bothering to try to create a coherent world in episodes 7-9 was staggering.
If a piece of media’s plot or storytelling is a bit meh, that’s forgivable, but when you’re just straight up not bothering to think of the logistics or established rules within a fantasy/sci-fi world? Please no. Please stop.
Or at least be writing something supernatural where there are barely any rules and you can hand waive whatever you like.
I’m not the biggest fan of 9, I liked the mandalorian movie
- 4 days
Ah, I haven’t been keeping up to date! Shall check it out :)
Not in love with all of Disney star wars, but Andor is hands down the greatest Star Wars I’ve seen, so I’ll forgive them for the rest of the stuff I don’t like as much (not including Star Wars episodes 7-9, straight to jail)
I just couldnt get into andor, and I say that thinking the best star wars movie is rogue one lmao. it was just a little bit too much talking for me.
I gave up on it midway through season two, maybe I’ll give it another shot now that xmen 97 ended its second season
- 3 days
I suppose we just enjoy different things about Star Wars then, for me it’s all about the world building, and seeing how characters act within it, the battles and action are just a climax to everything else (I feel this way about all sci-fi and fantasy).
Not saying you only watch it for the battles, but I do mostly watch it for the talking haha
It’s why I still very much enjoy the prequels, despite them being pretty shoddy on the plot (Anakin’s fall could have been written soooo much better written it hurts. Probably would have needed an extra movie to really sell it though. The Clone Wars TV show episode where Tarkin and Anakin meet for the first time was great if I recall correctly. It made kinda make sense why Anakin bought into fascism in the end.)
To me there’s no such thing as a food sci-fi and fantasy without politics (in the sense that there’s some disagreement which motivates people). More trade disputes and blockades please, less holdo maneuvers that break existing rules of the world. The holdo maneuver would have been great to destroy the Death Star with some Kamikaze X-Wings jumping to hyperspace through it…
The battles, to me, are only interesting if one fleshes out the world and the political disagreements.
I once started watching a Chinese fantasy show (was learning Chinese, and like sci-fi/fantasy) and it opened with a 10 minute battle, no context. Immediately turned it off, like why do I care, show?
- Jaycifer@piefed.socialEnglish4 days
I like that one as well. It’s cool to watch Mando do PG John Wick stuff, Rotta the Hutt was a surprisingly chill dude which was neat, and that part in the middle that was all puppets was a lot of fun to watch. Babu Frik was (in my opinion) the only good part of Rise of Skywalker, and the other little dudes in Mandalorian and Grogu were just as fun!
- 5 days
There’s so many bands I love and I don’t even have a clue what they look like much less know anything about their fan base
- TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
you’re not missing much.
whenever i go to a live show these days i’m like one of 5 people over the age of 30, and everyone else looks like a teenager who is still growing.
- 4 days
That’s fine, I’ve met some really interesting people both much younger and older than myself in this life.
- 6 days
It was so weird to study in STEM and meet other Star Trek fans in the cantina. Now there is something wrong with Wesley Crusher and I’m supposed to hate him and project that on the child actor, too? And when Jeri Ryan is nice enough to come all the way to a European convention, they yell “strip”? (At least they were disgusted as well about the latter, just reported others doing it.)
No thanks, I’ll hang out with decent people.
- Folstar@lemmus.orgEnglish4 days
I really have a hard time reconciling the Trek fans with the shows. Like, how did a person watch [insert any Picard speech] and end up this way?
- TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
I have no idea what you’re talking about, but that’s probably a good thing for me.
- TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
I don’t understand what a fanbase is. Probably why I just enjoy stuff and don’t really care about who else likes it though.
- 5 days
In the long long ago, in the before time, when a new manga, or anime became popular it wasn’t long before the fanbase formed. These weren’t your fanbases of today, these were communities to soak up everything there was to their favorite sgow. There was competition and cringe yes, but it had honor, there were boundaries. It was like this for decades.
Then Rick showed us how much he loves Szechuan Sauce and McDonald’s thought Rick and Morty was any other fanbase. They were wrong. Now a fanbase is just another segment of the population which can be marketed to and have wealth extracted. Another thing that can be packaged up into a product or video to maximize how much of your money or attention they get.
We’re Rick and Morty or McDonald’s to blame? No, they were only doing what everyone had been doing for decades. No, the world is different. The shows are different. The whole business is different. We the fans are different. We have to take our favorite thing as far as it will go to get as much as we can, boundaries be damned.
Now I follow the same path you do I…
…don’t really care who else likes it though.
That really did seem like a major cultural turning point, and I was watching it from the outside.
- TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
I never saw Ricky and Morty until Season 5, so I missed all of that.
- 6 days
Most ‘nerd’ stuff. Comic book movie discussion has gone to shit because people have become weird about it. When it’s not manosphere bullshit, it’s people expecting Endgame level quality and stakes for every single movie now, who would’ve shat on Iron Man if it came out today, and who need to be reminded of the absolute horse shit that we used to get. They’re starting to rival the Star Wars fans in terms of being insufferable.
Outside of the cosy games spaces that I’ve been hanging around, all I ever hear from Gamers™ is some controversy about a female character being a game. Or gasp a black character. They’re happy with the main protagonist being a woman if the jiggle psychics are set to max though.
And online at least, the alternative scene has gone to shit. People from the anti jock subcultures started listening to jocks with microphones on podcasts. People who grew up listening to Jonathan Davis singing about being called a “faget”, went on to become people who call others “betas”. Metal went from representing rebellion to representing people who go “stop making it political”.
And so many ‘punks’ seem to have become Joe Rogan fans too. I’ve even had to argue with people calling me a “woke lefty” in fan spaces for The Clash. We all laughed when Joe Rogan said “conservative is the new punk” but it’s an even bigger joke because half the people that took his word for it were punks.
- 5 days
I’m interacting with you directly because I’m not the best interactor and I need the practice. Thanks for the reminder.
You interact great dude. You need practice kissing. Now c’m’ere a minute
- 6 days
Warhammer/Warhammer 40k
Love the games an the lore but I wouldn’t touch the fandom with a 10 foot pole. Some of the absolute worst degenerates in there…
My experience is 50/50. Half the fandom are smart enough to see the lore is mostly satire meant to be silly exaggeration, the other half has a power fantasy from different, but overlapping backgrounds (misogynist, racist, homophobic, etc).
I attempt to only talk about these things with IRL friends. When our opinions disagree, we’re all nice about it. When we agree, it’s really fun to geek out on it together.
Even when we disagree, it can be fun to hear the reasons why. Because we don’t attack each other over personal preferences.
But trying to do that online? Nah. Tis a silly place.
- 5 days
That’s the difference with political discourse today. You had an obligation to be nice to people in fear of getting punched. Too many people cower behind keyboards with big opinions today because they know if they acted like that in public they would be hit.
- TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
dude, lucky you don’t live where i live because… they act like that in person where i live. and yeah nobody punches them. they encourage them for being ‘brave’. and if you be like ‘yeah maybe it’s not that bad’ they scream in your face.
where i live there really isn’t much of a barrier anymore between keyboard tantrums and real life ones… which is precisely why I don’t go out less and less. at least once a week I have to watch someone have a tantrum or be really nasty to someone else and it’s almost always the same types of comments and reactions as you see on the internet.
it’s incredibly cringe. and nobody pushes back because… other people agree with the shitty awful insane entitled crap people pull.
Like i can’t even go read a book in a cafe anymore without some insane weirdo being all offended at me. I used to do it like on an almost daily basis and nobody ever bothered me other than to maybe ask me if i liked the book… now they come up to me unprompted and tell me how what I’m reading is racist/sexist/evil because it’s… classic lit from the 19th century and I am ‘spreading’ evil by reading these book sin public… it’s strait up ‘evil spirits’ medieval type shit, except I’m the witch.
- TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
I used to have this… then the woke nutbags came along and decided all that mattered about you was your minor disagreements and you were a demonic evil person. I miss those days.
in real life. but i live in a ‘progressive’ city full of people who have very reactionary attitudes. 10 years ago nobody cared about these things, and now it’s like all they razor focus on and they are super presumptive of.
i literally went out to a place last night i used to hang out at with some friends… and the stereotypical woke person came up to me and told me I was ‘being problematic by taking up the corner’ or something, and I was like ‘yeah I’m trying to just do my thing here and not bother anyone’ and then they proceeded to tell me how i had to move because i was making them uncomfortable by doing my own thing and it bothered them. I rolled my eyes and they went away and I just decided to leave because it’s like… I get it you don’t want me to be here because I’m don’t look like you and it upsets you, even if I am literally just chilling and being nice. but since I take care of myself and am comfortable being quiet and chilling, i’m a ‘threat’ now.
and way too many of my old friends have become that person… the ‘concerned’ person who thinks me eating a tuna fish sandwich means I’m now a ‘bad person’. It’s like, why bother interacting with you at all ever? all they live for is being miserable and whiny and blaming other people for their feelings.
