- 2 months
My wife has been getting GLP-1 ads constantly. She weighs 110 lb and has struggled with anorexic tendencies since she was a teenager. Consumerism has no conscience.
quill7513@anarchist.nexusEnglish
2 monthsand if you interrogate where that insecurity has its roots, you will often find the answer is a society that constantly subjects women to judgement for their appearance, be that negative or positive judgement. it is simply the experience of being judged. botox, ozempic, plastic surgery, etc all becomes gender affirming care when you are femme in a society that requires femme identifying people to perform the role of disireable sexual object
the original post asks why. the original post also is why
and men have their own experiences with oppositional gaze, too, so we are clear. if you’ve ever heard the phrase “low t” applied to a man in his 30s or later, you have witnessed it
- 2 months
If I ever heard someone say “low t” unironically, I might laugh so hard I die.
quill7513@anarchist.nexusEnglish
2 monthsREGROW YOUR HAIR. WORK YOUR MUSCLES LIKE YOU DID WHEN YOU WERE 17 EVEN THOUGH YOU’RE 40. EAT STEAK. YOUR VALUE AS A MASCULINE MALE IS TO PERFORM AGGRESSION, NOT IN YOUR ABILITY TO GROW OUT OF THAT BEHAVIOR
Because the cosmetics industry spends billions of dollars a year yelling at women that they aren’t good enough.
They’re working the same bullshit on boys too (publicly) for the last 20 years.
- 2 months
Judging people they don’t know by their appearance.
I’ve seen WAY more women tear down other women for their appearance than men. That and the crazy online dating statistics that came out showing women judge people by their appearance way more harshly.
I don’t know if its a cultural problem or not, but people in general judge others by their appearance. Beautiful men have pretty privilege just as much as women.
- 2 months
I’m a dude but pretty much all the negative comments I get about my appearance come from women. The most I get from dudes occasionally is something akin to “lol, short” but mostly they compliment the fact that I work out. Women go into details about things they see wrong with me. Like I get that for women complimenting me comes with the risk that I’ll be a weirdo about it (not that I actually would) but you can just not say anything…
- 2 months
Am I supposed to know Ariana Grande on some deep interpersonal level to realize that she looks like a walking corpse?
- Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish2 months
Oh, wow. I hadn’t seen what she looked like in quite a while. I just looked her up, and that’s uncanny. I would bet her issue stems from the fact she became famous as a child, and feels the need to keep up that appearance. Most famous women are trying to prevent indications of aging (and failing harder than doing nothing), but that’s trying to stay looking 30s, not like a teenager.
- 2 months
A fun fact about opinions is that you can keep that shit to yourself. I dont know you but I’m not gonna offer my opinion cuz no one asked. Just because we all have a soapbox doesn’t mean we gotta use it
- 2 months
No, Ariana is beyond opinion. You can literally count her ribs. I literally cringe every time I see her. It’s beyond attractive or unattractive, she simply is not healthy.
- 2 months
A fun fact about opinions is that you can keep that shit to yourself
Good thing they didn’t offer an opinion.
Ariana Grande looks insanely unhealthy, like a skeleton, and appears to be in a health crisis with either ED or GLP1 abuse.
That isn’t an opinion, that’s a fact. She’s undeniably not naturally that bone thin, nor that inactive during her performances like she’s been recently.
- brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 months
Wow she responded to Lemmy
“The body that you’ve been comparing my current body to was the unhealthiest version of my body. I was on a lot of antidepressants and drinking on them and eating poorly,” she said. “[I was] at the lowest point of my life when I looked the way you consider my healthy, but that in fact wasn’t my healthy.”
(Actually April 2023)
OK all done with celebrity stuff for the month then! :) cared enough to quickly search once and accidentally found this^ but not opining
- 2 months
This might be shocking to learn, but someone who’s clearly going through a health crisis and is clearly extremely unhealthy due to an ED or GLP1 misuse, may actually lie about being unhealthy to get the scrutiny off of them.
Not to mention Ariana went 30+ years not looking like an actual skeleton. No way in fuck her prior body was less healthy.
But this is your opinion that you are sharing even though nobody asked which kind of invalidates your opinion in a way that is humorous
- 2 months
There’s no question that judging women by their appearance is a widespread problem, but doing expensive/unsafe medical things for the sake of appearance is also about personality.
- Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Yes… a personality often built off the unhealthy relationship society has with women’s physical appearance. Sure, women can not care, but their lives will often unfortunately be much more difficult for it. Even accounting for the effort put into their appearance. These things are not so easily divorced in reality as they are in online discussions.
Lantsu@sopuli.xyzEnglish
2 monthsI get scared of the botox faces, both seen from a screen and IRL. They speak, but face doesn’t move. No emotions. It’s just unsettling. And it’s hard to take the person seriously, even if they were smart.
Often it looks like that the person would be very pretty, definitely not a mirror breaker, under it all. Even makeup often looks like the person would look better after cleaning the skin with a butter knife. I keep hearing from men that their ladies are most prettiest after waking up or just without makeup, but it’s not like they can say that without the lady thinking they’re being sarcastic.
- 2 months
Because makeup is for women what bodybuilding is for men. Go tell a bodybuilder that ladies would find him prettier if he was skinnier, and see his reaction
- 2 months
If you can’t accept how beautiful you are, the way you are, doing stuff in your face won’t change it either.
The wrost part is the internet and the Barbie effect, that brainwashes women, same as politics, because she did, you have to do it or follow the trend.
Let me tell you what: you are amazing the way you are, you look different, you look beautiful! - 2 months
Because society tells attractive women our value is primarily being attractive and losing that is scary since most people aren’t willing to give up the only thing that makes them valuable
- 2 months
When I got fat, people were assholes to me so much more often. They had no patience for me, it was crazy. I got back in shape and I’m worth courtesy and kindness again, apparently.
I’m afraid of aging in part because I’m scared to lose that basic human decency again.
- 2 months
You do not need to look a certain way to be worthy of respect, kindness, and love. And it’s sick that so many people are such superficial assholes.
- 2 months
Not a woman, so I could be full of shit. It does seem to me that women face much more pressure to be conventionally attractive, especially in image-intensive jobs like acting.
- daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
A lot is advertising. Dude im 40F. It’s nonstop advertising to get fillers. Botox. Implants. Ozempic.
Constantly bombarded with it.
- daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
I get them on Instagram a lot. I already use Firefox and ublock. And have targeted advertising turned off.
Doesn’t seem to matter.
- daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
You know originally it was used by artist, right?
You can still use it for art networking.
You don’t have to follow “models” . I don’t.
- OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish2 months
There are other places for art networking, places that don’t support quite as awful of a corp.
- NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
1). Society tells women they need to do things “preventively” to avoid becoming hideous goblins in a few years. That’s why you see 22 year olds getting Botox - they have been told they have to start paying NOW to avoid wrinkles
2). Hollywood and entertainment media have normalized unrealistic standards. And you can’t become a newcomer in that space without conforming to the employable look
3). Gossip media loves to pick apart any millimetre of fat (“Is ______ pregnant? Click to see her baby bump!”) or photo taken in bad lighting (“What is wrong with ______ ‘s health, click to see what our medical specialists have to say”). And then they love to chastise people after they give into plastic surgery (“Click to see ______’s terrible nose job, why DID she do it??”)
Billions of dollars are made making women feel shitty. Nobody is going to let that cash go because morals.
- 2 months
This meme is part of the system here as well.
No one in this thread is complaining about ugly women getting these procedures done. They want women to be attractive, but only on their terms.
- thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
That requires the hideous mods she did to her face?

She was super super pretty, even if not your type, she looked great. Wtf did she do.
- 2 months
She lost a shit ton of weight because of Graves’ disease. Edit: I just remembered, the steroids used to treat Graves’ disease also affect how your face looks.
She also had some work done, but not anything more than any other actress has generally.
- 2 months
I kind of hate that this implies “ugly” women will not be judged here for using the same beauty procedures as already attractive women.
Not to mention that these beauty procedures are also sought out by men.
- 2 months
Wholesome plot twist; the “already attractive women” includes all the women.
- 2 months
On Lemmy?
Haaaaaahahahahaha
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
It’s a nice thought regardless :)
- 2 months
“You already make my dick hard, why are you still insecure?!”
Yeah it’s gross.
- wabasso@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
I technically agree with this. If it came down to making laws about this or that, body autonomy takes priority. But I don’t think that should preclude discussion about an individual’s motivation for the modification, and whether it is healthy.
- 2 months
Does she now. Or is it that many women are bombarded with so much bullshit starting from so early an age that for many it is not them exercising their choice, but a bunch of assholes extracting money from them with no regards to consequences?











