Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.worldEnglish
4 daysI don’t want a tool to avoid Flock cameras. I want a tool that uses my Bluetooth to turn Flock cameras into bricks.
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
3 daysOne of those spray-can extension poles would probably work pretty well.

- OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish4 days
If you want a tool that turns Flock cameras into bricks, all you need is a brick.
… Or wire cutters, or a big hammer, or an angle grinder, or a drill, or a large rock, or a can of spray paint, etc, etc, etc. They’re not terribly resilient against physical damage.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyzEnglish
4 daysI’ve been thinking of buying a slingshot and some paintballs. For another, completely irrelevant purpose though, obviously.
- OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish4 days
Remember to mask up when you’re going out playing with paintballs – for covid safety! Wear sunglasses, too – you don’t want eye damage from the bright sunlight.
Oh, and perhaps most importantly, leave your phone at home. Wouldn’t want to accidentally hit your phone with a paintball, would you?
- flandish@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
problem is the camera sees you offing it. unless you bloc up way away, and not near your own stuff.
- 3 days
Need to figure out a small scale, cheap, EMP device that can be set off to fry the cameras and sensors, but nothing else that is around.
- 3 days
Agreed, though I would expect one to not be carrying anything that could be affected by such a device, whilst deploying said devices. So personal devices don’t count as needing protection AFAIC
- T156@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
If it’s using Bluetooth to knacker them, then all the nearby Bluetooth devices would be vulnerable.
Medical equipment these days also can feature Bluetooth for mobile connectivity, and you can’t exactly go without your defibrillator, hearing aids, or insulin pump.
- blargh513@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 days
I heard that certain laser pointers of a specific wavelength can cook most cameras.
spicy pancake@lemmy.zipEnglish
3 daysmaybe some kinda really directional antenna? like a laser but for the radio range of EM
need to have line of sight and accurate aim, however
spicy pancake@lemmy.zipEnglish
3 dayshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yagi–Uda_antenna
so that’s what they’re called
wildflower@lemmy.worldEnglish
4 daysI would think that a simple laser-pointer pointed at the camera would be enough to damage the sensor?
- modus@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
You’ll need around a 1-watt green (532nm) laser pointer. That’s gonna run you about $500 and they’re kinda dangerous.
- T156@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
Lasers would be quite risky. Anything that powerful would also instantly obliterate peoples’ vision if there’s a reflection and it gets them in the eye.
- innermachine@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
Don’t worry ur tpms ids aren’t useful for tracking. Their not like exclusive to the car and in some data base, and not as unique as u may think. Their randomly generated either 10 digit or hex ID that u program ur cars tpms module to read. U can replace the sensors and run another randomly generated id and program module to see that as it’s, or u can reprogram a sensor (or a blank) to have the existing ID. There is no real useful way to track anybody with it, the range is so shit on them and you would have had to already have scanned the sensor IDs on the car to know them, which surprise u have a licence plate and shit their already gonna have all ur info at that point. If ur getting tracked in a car, I promise you it will never be from the TPMS lol
- CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
Burned into my mind is the reaction to my rural town’s mayor when Flock was brought up:
“Have you seen the stop signs around here? Do you think those cameras will last any longer?”
Many of the local stop signs have at least one bullet hole in them. Armored mailboxes are commonplace. They want to put up something in the sticks that it isn’t morally ambiguous to destroy?
- CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
They aren’t shooting at them. It used to be a popular thing for teenagers to whack mailboxes from moving cars using baseball bats or similar implements. It was a bigger problem ~20 years ago.
Of course now you’re likely to break your hand/arm/bat if you try it. I’ve seen several methods used to prevent damage to mailboxes, including cages made from rebar, stacks of mobile home rims with a mailbox in the center, mailboxes made from drill pipe, the mailbox at my house is made from 1/4" thick steel plate and the post it is mounted to is a piece of I-beam. It’s bonkers. I think you could hit it with a semi truck and the truck would lose. I didn’t build it, it was there when I bought the house.
- Technoworcester@feddit.ukEnglish3 days
I always thought mailboxes were a weird tv thing for rural areas. Don’t you guys have letterboxes?
- rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish1 day
Usually no
We tend to put our houses in the center of our properties and often don’t have any front-yard fencing. Making the mail carriers walk all the way up to every house would be prohibitatively time consuming. Without a fence, we need to put the letterbox on a post, so we use a mailbox.
You don’t even have to be all that rural. If you have a single-family unattached home that wasn’t built in a developer plan, you’ll end up with a mailbox on a post at the road to one side of your driveway. Unless a specific location has a problem with theft, we don’t even have a locking system.
In the newer planned neighborhoods, they’ll set up cluster mailboxes.

- CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
⚠️ WARNING: P.U.I ⚠️
Letterboxes are seen in cities sometimes, but in the middle of nowhere, everyone has a mailbox by the road. Sometimes they are clustered together, a bunch of boxes in the same place so the mail carrier doesn’t have to drive a mile down some unpaved dead end road.
- DaniNatrix@leminal.spaceEnglish3 days
I like to decorate mine! Our previous one rusted out so I painted the numbers onto our new one (instead of using stickers) and then painted gold ginko leaves all over it with some bugs hiding around them.
- 3 days
Monument mailboxes were popular for a while when I was a kid in Florida. Someone in the neighborhood had one shaped like a manatee!
- unphazed@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
Mine is made from 14g steel. Someone took out my last 2. Even threw eggs and canned foods at it a few times. No clue who I pissed off. Changed out the box, posted on facebook we upgraded it and installed a hidden camera, and they stopped. Funny thing is the post is 3in pvc pipe painted to kinda look like iron (I had to span 4 feet cause the box has to set over an asphalt ditch).
- NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish3 days
Is a webpage a “tool”?
I keep hearing from US friends that their best tool was getting involved and having Flock banned from their counties and cities.
- MangoCats@feddit.itEnglish3 days
But, are they only banning Flock (which is a good step), or are they banning all ALPR installs? Can they even ban them on private property? A lot of what I see on deflock.org near me isn’t on the streets (though some is), most of them are actually looking at parking lots, many of big box stores like Lowes, random strip malls and shopping centers, a church…
adarza@piefed.caEnglish
4 daysjust walking a mile down a road i haven’t been down in years, i spotted two of them. there’s been absolutely no local coverage about it… and scanning local municipal and town meeting minutes for the last several years–not one mention of them.
JelloBrains@piefed.zipEnglish
4 daysThey have a whole division for pushing HOA’s to partner with them and “keep the places you call home safe.” So it’s not even just Governments you need to wonder about, HOA’s can just install them. So if you can’t find anything in Government documents, it’s entirely possible a nearby HOA did it.
Flock Safety’s HOA security cameras help deter and solve crime, protect residents, and build trust with 24/7 tech that works with law enforcement to keep your neighborhood safe and connected.
Optional law enforcement access gives your board confidence with faster response times and alerts for known threats—while keeping full control in your community’s hands
Flock Safety’s solar-powered, LTE-connected neighborhood camera solutions install anywhere—no wiring, no utility bills, no IT headaches. We handle setup, maintenance, and support.
That’s some of the sales pitch on their site about why HOA’s should get them.
- MangoCats@feddit.itEnglish3 days
deflock.org shows some clusters in local neighborhoods that look like HOA driven installs.
adarza@piefed.caEnglish
4 daysthey were on a street that is also carries state and u.s. highway designation, just past the municipal boundary. small town here, there literally are no ‘subdivisions’ or hoa anywhere around.
sanitation@lemmy.todayEnglish
4 daysI’m so confused, what is the upside of allowing those for the town?
- 0ndead@infosec.pubEnglish4 days
Cops love surveillance. It’s easier for them than patrolling a beat; you know actual police work.
For citizens, there is no real upside.
- 3 days
Deflock=where they are… Start mob grouping the cameras.
Has anyone here tried caulking a super strong magnet on to one of the poles? They make squeeze caulk that can do multi surface.
Could also just start taking them out? Just start throwing rocks at them and using a hammer against the boxes. Spray painting the cameras. Idk, there’s things people can do.
Make a program that’s constantly making it seem like there’s ghost devices and overload the list and it does it so much they can’t use it. Ummmmm… Let’s get creative.
- rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish1 day
A magnet alone wouldn’t do anything. You’d need an active jammer, which would be illegal. Don’t F with the FCC :)
Put a dab of caulk on the end of a dowel and touch the lens. That would at worst be vandalism, I imagine.
The messiest part would be not getting caught on one of the cameras before, during or after doing the deed.
- 1 day
The messiest part would be not getting caught on one of the cameras before, during or after doing the deed.
R. C. Cars operated by extenders to the antennas, you could have someone drive one around to take focus off of them and have a printout of a human face in high detail.
You have full arm gloves on and you use contacts and a wig just in case. Could also do a full body gorilla suit with contacts in and have a clip on device near your hands that emits a bleach mist so your finger prints aren’t there. Like spider man’s cartridges but for bleach misting.
- rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish1 day
Yeah, totally possible to do in an anonymous style, you just need to consider anonymous transport; they have cameras leading up to and away from most places. If they really got their nickers in a wad, they’d ask local businesses and ring cameras for footage. Trying to do something like this is more akin to planning a heist with all the surveillance.
- 1 day
Someone should make a mass loader of like 10,000 bluetooth devices that don’t exist, pre-generated and loaded ready to go and when they scan your device it auto loads 10,000 devices and it overloads the scanner and crashes. Bonus points if the generator is built-in to the device to re-use on other flock cameras after the first hit :P
- rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish1 day
I’ve seen some tech that searches out hot mirros and blasts them with an intense IR laser to burn out the sensors. Of course by then, they already have seen your plate.
- RattlerSix@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
That site is just a map of Flock cams. You can detect them with a tool called Flock You
- 4 days
In Socal we’re scanned by more than 18 cameras just driving 8 miles to Costco.
- 3 days
Small little ruralish tourist town, we got em at Lowe’s and Walmart, and 2 in one of the highest traffic areas. Thinking about seeing to sign for the meth heads letting them know there’s valuable metal (gold) in dem
hillscameras - unitedwithme@lemmy.todayEnglish4 days
Couldn’t I just run for president and abuse my “power” like Trump, but instead of doing lots of bad I could do good? Id start by making all these executive orders to raise wealth taxes, ban invasive technologies, limit social media influence, or big tech’s reach into buying out politicians, etc…
Think Robin Hood but on a presidential scale.
- FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
You could try.
My wager is you’d be assassinated, but for a glorious and short time you’d be the most successful American president in history. There’s a reason why Congress term-limited presidents after FDR. People want presidents that actually do good shit. It’s just that we never get a choice between two good people ever.
- unitedwithme@lemmy.todayEnglish4 days
Yeah, seeing how they wouldn’t offer secret service to RFK Jr when he ran for the short time, I’d certainly be SOL. I’d imagine I get the ol’ Russian “threw myself out the window” treatment or some other suicide thing…
LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyzEnglish
4 daysDepending on the route i take, there are up to 21 Flock cameras on my way to work. Its only like 5.5 miles.
Curious_Canid@piefed.caEnglish
4 daysI think we need to start holding paintball battles around Flock cameras. Just to provide the surveillance techs with some entertainment, of course.
- Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish3 days
Paintball battles?
Why paint?
Why battles?
Just get a decent hunting rifle and blast the damn thing from beyond its visual range
- anon_8675309@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
If there’s a camera on a roadway they can do ALPR. I’m not saying they do, I’m saying it’s highly possible because cameras have gotten so much better. And the APIs to do the ALPR are getting cheaper.













