- nullspace@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
I’m gonna take this as good news and not get involved in some tribal dick-shooting.
- 2 days
I think even sane people would acknowledge China is pragmatic and more forward thinking, despite the politics.
- Mihies@programming.devEnglish3 days
Yep, but they still have a long way to go when it comes to co2 emissions.
3 daysI would hope so given how much pollution they’re responsible for. They should have already been there or at least been close. Europe’s at 50% now and China is still on par with the US who’ve been run by a child rapist for the better part of a decade.
- scratchee@feddit.ukEnglish2 days
Worth noting the US is still ahead on total cumulative emissions, and if you adjust per capita (which is only fair), China doesn’t even hit the top 20.
Meanwhile, they installed more solar than the rest of the world combined last year.
Like, I’m not absolving them, they could be doing more, but right now they’re embarrassing us on how fast they’re pivoting.
Where are you getting that info? This is two years old and China downplays emission data.
- scratchee@feddit.ukEnglish2 days
Your image shows US as 434 billion and china as 285, which is a smaller gap than my source, but not completely different. It’s weird it’s not listed in order.
My source is:
As far as I know carbon brief are well respected and not a Chinese puppet, but I admit I that doesn’t mean they’re completely correct.
Edit: I see now that’s a little out of date. 2021.
They have an updated one from 2024, https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-chinas-emissions-have-now-caused-more-global-warming-than-eu/
Which doesn’t change my original assertion about the US having higher cumulative emissions, but does change the scale of the difference a bit, and discusses whether China will ever overtake the US (looks like it might be a toss up)
I mean China is still in the tail end of industrialisation, the fact they’ve come this far in such a short amount of time is astonishing.
By that logic why would any country have to reduce emissions. Reduce emissions nah im on the tail end of industrialisation so im not gonna do that. Im sure global warming will be happy to wait because we all know once you finish industrialisation emissions hit 0.
Reading comprehension on this website.
They still have to reduce emissions and in the last few years they’ve built tons of renewables.
My point was that their progress so far is actually very impressive considering they are still in the process of industrialisation. It was bit me saying they don’t need to do anything else.
The time to begin reducing emissions was 20 years ago. They’ve almost caught up to the US’s 170 years of damage dealt in 40 years. Are we just suppose to allow every country to do this? Can india do the same for the next 20 years with no complaints from you? My country isnt industralized should we get rid of our emission targets. After the first climate conferences countries may not have been all hitting their targets but they werent blatantly disregarding them and doing the complete opposite except china of course because even though they’re one of the highest GDP in the world and already industrialized they get the pollution pass because they’re a dictatorship.
The only impressive thing is how much damage they’ve done in such a short time.
- 2 days
But China is reducing emissions, what are you on about? China has a disproportionate amount of the world’s production capacity, if it reduced that it’d have massive worldwide economic ramifications (meaning other countries wouldn’t have the money to reduce emissions either).
They have never reduced emissions only reduced emission growth and only by single digit % only to increase it the next year. I dont care about how much they’re producing they choose to produce that and therefore they are responsible for those emissions same as everyone else.
