- nonentity@sh.itjust.worksEnglish4 minutes
I’ll worry about ‘AI’ when something that can legitimately be mistaken as intelligence is demonstrated.
In the meantime, these explosively imprecise, statistically luke-warm, grey goo extrusion sphincters need to be exclusively opt-in, and not forced on anyone who hasn’t explicitly consented to a lobotomy.
21 minutesChernobyl didn’t turn the world against nuclear powerplants forever so it’s probably fine.
Did someone say creating fake news in masses to scare people away from genAI?
Count me in!
- Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish3 hours
These top AI researchers are just investment bankers. So no, not real people
- plyth@feddit.orgEnglish2 hours
People haven’t paid attention to the warnings from the Dune movie.
Not every country was bothered by Chernobyl. The winners will keep using AI.
- Treczoks@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
On the other hand, it would be a smart tactical move to start the Butlerian Jihad early enough before it turns into a potential extintion event.
- FukOui@lemmy.zipEnglish5 hours
Already used in ukraine war, palestenian genocide rtc. See autonomous drones.
We should already be against AI but mainstream media and class consciousness are suppressed to serve our billionaire overlords
- HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.orgEnglish1 hour
Also in the genocide in Sudan. They killed a whole city, Al Faschir or El Fasher. Over 70,000 people disappeared in one night when the city was invaded. Most of them are probably dead - what remained were blood puddles visible on satellite images.
There is a detailed, very high quality report in the renowned German newspaper DIE ZEIT that tried to reconstruct what happened:
https://www.zeit.de/2026/16/kriegsverbrechen-al-faschir-sudan-darfur-rsf/komplettansicht
It is, after the report of WWII allies reaching German concentration camps, and the testimonies from Hiroshima, among the worst and most depressing things I have ever read.
Seems like Ukraine needed money, and sold drones to Saudi Arabia. And Saudi gave the weapons to the Arab side of the civil war. Which included the forces which besieged and destroyed Al Fashir.
If AI was perhaps a neutral technology before, this is certainly not the case any more.
- JigglySackles@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
Could it please happen now? Would really like it if it could happen before the world ends.
- nevyn@slrpnk.netEnglish3 hours
ai could con ai zombies into getting vasectomies first, that would be cool.
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I feel like one could legitimately run on this platform at this point.
- ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish5 hours
I don’t think it will be Chernobyl or 9/11 level, but I do think an epic fuckup with potential casualties is going to set AI back ten years. And maybe by then we’ll have figure out our shit enough to make it not destroy society.
It’s the same cycle you see with deregulation. Dereg good, until so much dereg that something epically fucks up. Then it’s “why did no one prevent this” and regulations are back again.
Then it’s “why did no one prevent this” and regulations are back again.
then the regulations need to be stronger and the guillotines sharper.
- fisch@lemmy.worldEnglish11 hours
Torment does not create torment. It’s being created by the torment factory within the nexus. Nexus was not valued.
- SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish13 hours
There is a key difference, that makes the genie impossible to bottle: People can run local AI on their own machines. Fans of nuclear power can’t easily build nuclear plants in their backyard. A pity, the world could use more nuclear energy. 😔
Anyhow, I am looking forward to someday using frontier-grade AI on my PC. Just need the AI bubble to pop, so that I can afford the terrabytes of memory that would be needed to comfortably run it.
- heartSagan5@lemmy.zipEnglish8 hours
Good. If people had nuclear in their backyard, we’d be a “junkyard nightmare” and a “dirty bomb hellscape.”
- kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish10 hours
Wait… how do you imagine a world where there’s demand for frontier grade AI but also that the bubble has popped such that there’s not demand for the chips to run frontier grade AI?
I’m really confused.
- SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish9 hours
The internet survived the Dotcom bubble. Many businesses died, but some survived. The glut of hardware from the dead will end up in the hands of individuals, upstart companies, and the corporations that outlived their peers.
In any case, I believe the definition of frontier AI will change, as would the hardware. My build is based on what local AI is available today, with some wiggle room left over. I believe that it is around 2030, when DDR6 and other major shifts are likely to happen, that we will see the definitions change.
In any case, a Q4 of GLM 5.2 is about 460ish gigs of VRAM+RAM. While expensive, that ain’t out of reach for an AI hobbyist.
The internet survived the Dotcom bubble. Many businesses died, but some survived. The glut of hardware from the dead will end up in the hands of individuals, upstart companies, and the corporations that outlived their peers.
And that resulted in there being 5 websites with fewer people self-hosting so I don’t know why you use that as an example of decentralization.
If there is a general demand for AI after the AI bubble like there was for the internet post dotcom bubble then people will always gravitate toward the most convenient way to get it which is through the cloud powered by someone else super computer.
- kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish9 hours
Right, but what % of people are currently using/demanding inference right now?
Do you expect that % to change between now and 2030?
Unless you expect demand to decrease, I don’t really see how the pricing of the hardware will decrease.
Let’s say the Pets.com of the AI world ends up going bankrupt and their RAM hits the market. Do you expect that the demand for that RAM will be negligible such that pricing returns to earlier levels?
Your predictive model relies on companies that have hardware going out of business and then other people buying up that hardware, but isn’t accounting for the levels of demand that the market will have for that secondhand hardware even if it ends up existing from failed firms.
Unless the demand shifts, the more likely scenario is that companies going out of business will be able to sell off their RAM at higher prices than they bought it at.
There’d need to be a significant inference memory reduction advance (possible) coupled with stagnating or reduced inference demand (unlikely) to see prices come back down.
- FE80@lemmy.worldEnglish9 hours
Unless the demand shifts, the more likely scenario is that companies going out of business will be able to sell off their RAM at higher prices than they bought it at.
Oh lordy, after the bankruptcies there are going to be creditors fighting each other in court to be paid back in ram.
- 7101334@lemmy.worldEnglish12 hours
Fans of nuclear power can’t easily build nuclear plants in their backyard.
