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Reminder that slavery is still legal in the US, if theworker is incarcerated.
2 monthsThey are not called workers, then.
They are called slaves, then.
Workers are part of the proletariat.
Slaves are part of the slave class which in the US is reflected in the carceral state as you have pointed out.
But call them slaves as that is what they are. We have taken their identity. And we have taken their rights. And we sell them into work. We do no favors calling prisoners anything but slaves because they have been erased institutionally.
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Workers as is “people who work”. Not as in “the class of the proletariat”. 🙄
Not every state has the ability to force labor (generally per their state constitutions), if I remember a conversation I had years ago with my dad who was a judge. Just they tend to structure their prison sentencing and early release programs such that you’re trading years more of your life if you don’t “voluntarily” cooperate. So you know, tomato tomato.
It’s one of the bigger problems my state has, its reliance on its prisoner-slave workforce for vital services.
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$11b worth of goods and services sounds like a lot, except that there are at least 1 million people locked up. Even if they don’t have to pay the prisoners for their labour, the cost of keeping them locked up is much, much higher than the value of any labour they perform.
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Yeah… according to the stats in this post, about 1.9 million people are behind bars.
11 billion a year between 1.9 million prisioners is about 6k per year per prisoner.
So that’s about $500 a month per prisoner. Which is not as big of a number… and according to the article, the prisoners still get paid a fraction of it… it’s just that 80% is used “for room and board, court costs, restitution and other fees, including the construction and maintenance of prisons”.
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I really like this infographic on this topic: Incarceration in Real Numbers.
Side note: is there a good abolitionist Lemmy community around somewhere?
As the law requires US military gear to be made in the USA … guess who gets to make it as repetitive cheapest bidder ?
Seems like the USA is really more like Sparta than maybe it wants to admit.
- Phantaloons@piefed.zipEnglish1 month
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Their incarceration rate is still quite high at 197
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
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Should be even less today. Today it’s about 210
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Why have you sent me a 404 link with a video in Russian?
And 210 is higher than 179
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What is your point? that China is more free than known fascist state Portugal and the UK?
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who wants to be part of the pathetic group of fascist losers? well, besides you, of course
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China is a dictatorship of the proletariat, incarceration rates need to be understood by the class in control of the state.
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lmao you people are the worst hypocrites ever , no matter what the west does you’ll just turn around and say WHATABOUT CHINA !!
- Alfredolin@sopuli.xyzEnglish2 months
What? I think it goes along OP’s point and is a nice reference to add.
Or what’s the problem? I mean China is doing good on the graph in comparison to USA. Very good.
Everyone - except you, US -, please give yourself a tap on the shoulder.
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Used to be that China was on par in that regard say… 10? 15 years ago? I remember seeing a comparison, it was more neck at neck, but I think they reduced it and the US massively increased it, so it’s high but not US high.
Similarly something about military spending; same US ballooning in the past few decades.
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No, China never had large incarceration rate compared to the us.
