your game is not on your disk! Your game is downloaded after you insert your disk.

I have seen this being mentioned a few times. I wonder what those games are, or whether people are exaggerating for hyperbole.

I own physical copies of PS5 exclusives that I play without signing in to PSN. Most recently, I played the director’s cut of Ghost of Tsushima this way. I used to do the same on my PS4 too.

Henceforth, you shall be known as the guy not from Yukon.

The grey is a substitute for transparency.

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You are still arguing against a position I never took.

I never disputed why companies are pushing digital. I disputed the idea that losing physical media is not a loss for consumers. Rights like resale, lending, ownership independent of a single account, and preservation do not stop to matter because digital is more popular.

It’s a business.

That is an explanation for why companies make these decisions, not a defence of them. By that logic, any reduction in consumer rights would be acceptable so long as it increases profits. I don’t think that is a particularly compelling standard.

We are discussing two different questions: you are defending the business incentive, while I am discussing the consumer trade-offs. There is nothing more to add, so I will leave it at that.

You are arguing against points I did not make. Do not confuse consumer preference with consumer rights.

The fact that most people buy digitally does not magically eliminate the benefits of physical media: resale, lending, collecting, and not tying every purchase to a single account or storefront. That is especially relevant on consoles, where you don’t have the competitive marketplace that exists on PC. Comparing Steam to PlayStation as though they are equivalent ecosystems ignores the very thing being discussed.

You went from making weak arguments to inventing facts. “No one is sharing games” goes against the used games market as well as game lending. As earlier, your point about Gran Turismo is just an anecdote dressed up as a general principle.

And your last paragraph is a joke. If you have to speculate and invent my position instead of addressing it, that is a sign your rebuttal is weak, just like your original comment.

You seem to be hung on that one example and have made a whole argument supported by it.

One does own their games on disc.

I can still play using my physical copies after all these years, regardless of whether I am logged into PSN or if I am playing it on a PS4 or a PS5.

You indeed failed to see the issue.

It is not really wise to compare Steam with the console ecosystem, especially when there exists several alternatives to obtain games on PC.

Physical discs matter more on consoles than on PCs, given that there is not a whole lot one can do if their account gets banned for the silliest of reasons, or if one wants to share a game.

Also, have you thought that you might be referring to two different sets of customers: one that is fine with digital purchases on Steam/PSN, and the other that strongly supports physical purchases?

Using a single example of GT is insufficient to make a broad statement like the one you made.