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17 days

GrapheneOS says Revolut is blocking its users over Google Play checks

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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1319937/grapheneos-says-revolut-is-blocking-its-users-over-google-play-checks

Via @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social on Mastodon.

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    GrapheneOS (@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social)
    grapheneos.social
    Revolut recently banned using GrapheneOS without any justification. They're falsely claiming to do be doing it for security reasons. In reality, they're enforcing licensing Google Play. Revolut doesn't enforce security standards. It runs on Android 9 with no patches since 2018.
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    • superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      17 days

      This is probably something you have to get used to when using Graphene unfortunately. Just pack up and leave, there are tons of banks where the app works fine.

        • Ludicrous0251@piefed.zipEnglish
          16 days

          There are also tons of banks that let you bank through a web browser, banking apps are hardly critical if you have a sane bank

        • Bell@lemmy.worldEnglish
          16 days

          They just lost a customer. This was on my list of apps to use but not if they are this dumb

            • ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              16 days

              I use it un graphene and had 0 problems this far.

            • flop_leash_973@lemmy.worldEnglish
              16 days

              As shit as it is there is a every growing list of things you had better just be prepared to not interface with on your phone if you are going to run a Android phone without Play Services installed.

              Flip side to that is once I switched my Pixel to GrapheneOS without having access to things that only work right with Play Services the phone became way less interesting outside of phone, text, casual web browsing, and photos. Which is probably a good thing.

                • resterWink@lemmy.darkc0de.oneEnglish
                  16 days

                  I can whole heartedly agree. Its almost like when you take the out the scientifically crafted environments that are designed to suck your soul and wallet out of the equation that your relationship with technology just gets better.

                    • snrkl@lemmus.orgEnglish
                      16 days

                      If you are interested, here is the book that taught them all how to do it:

                      https://www.nirandfar.com/hooked/

                      Here is the book the same author wrote when he realised his kids were getting addicted to devices:

                      https://www.nirandfar.com/indistractable/

                        • binom@lemmy.worldEnglish
                          16 days

                          that’s hilarious, thanks for sharing!

                    • Mihies@programming.devEnglish
                      16 days

                      But why would Revolut do something like that? They will lose customers and it’s not just in spite, I’d assume.

                      Edit: loose->lose, customers

                        • SirSamuel@lemmy.worldEnglish
                          16 days

                          Terribly sorry, I try not to be a pedant about these things, but this is major pet peeve of mine. Up there with people saying “anywho”

                          It’s “lose”.

                          Loose describes the screw I have

                          Lose is what I do with my mind on the daily

                          I love you anyway, have a great day

                            • Mihies@programming.devEnglish
                              16 days

                              Thanks, learning never hurts.

                              • faintwhenfree@lemmus.orgEnglish
                                16 days

                                Anywhere exists, anyhow exists.

                                Why the discrimination against anywho and anywhy??

                                Who can do it? Anywho can do it? Why can they do it? Anywhy they can do it?

                                  • SirSamuel@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                    16 days

                                    NGL, I’m racist against “anywho” because my sister says it and she’s super annoying. Is it unfair? Yes. Will I change? Never

                                      • Peffse@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                        16 days

                                        alright boys, we have a mission to take out SirSamuel’s sister so we can use “anywho” again.

                                      • sem@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                        16 days

                                        I like anywho. It’s whimsical

                                      • Bilb!@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                        16 days

                                        Mine is “hence why,” I become irrationally irritated when I see it, but try to harbor no malice towards people I see using it.

                                          • SirSamuel@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                            16 days

                                            Irregardless, we all have our peeves and foibles

                                        • cageythree@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                          16 days

                                          I don’t understand either. What benefit do they have from blocking it (or what disadvantage do they have from not blocking)? There has to be some reason, no?

                                        • Wispy2891@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                          16 days

                                          More like: Google gave developers an automatic “checkbox” tick way to block grapheneos users and everyone that doesn’t have a goggle play licensed firmware

                                          Assholes

                                          • kate@lemmy.uhhoh.comEnglish
                                            16 days

                                            If you’re in the UK then nationwide and monzo bank apps are confirmed to work

                                            • BakedCatboy@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                              16 days

                                              I switched away from Ally bank for similar reasons, on my lineage’d pixel 5 with gapps, their app would always fail the login the first time then succeed the second time for no reason.

                                              Then the bank I switched to, greenfi (coastal community bank) completely blocked login unless I had play protect (in Google play) enabled, which allows Google to uninstall any app from your phone without asking if they decide it’s a “security risk” or whatever - I can totally imaging them deciding that ReVanced / morphie / patched apps that block their ads to be a “security issue”. Luckily greenfi was more understanding and they did something that allowed me to log in again.

                                                • nofate@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                  16 days

                                                  How did you get greenfi working, call/email them? It used to work for me on graphene until fairly recently.

                                                    • BakedCatboy@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                      16 days

                                                      I emailed them at support@greenfi.com with basically the message “I can’t login I get this message, what can I do to resolve this”, went back and forth a bunch, did all the annoying troubleshooting reinstalling the app, clearing app data, etc, sent screenshots of the message, assured I wasn’t using a VPN, sent all the details of my phone and rom version, had to poke them when they didn’t respond, got a random message of them saying “we see you were able to gain access” and I had to be like wtf no I didn’t?, told them it worked if I temporarily enabled play protect and said I would switch banks if I couldnt access check deposit which is mobile only, they replied with some justification why play protect is tripping it up, so I told them that I had no issues having play protect off with other financial apps like fidelity and chase bank, and finally got a response from a “supervisor” saying “i refreshed your settings” settings" and it started working.

                                                      Not sure if they just whitelisted my account or what, but maybe if enough people complain they will get tired of whitelisting everyone and change course.

                                                        • nofate@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                          15 days

                                                          Thanks for the info. Before contacting them I had the idea of disabling the play integrity API for the app to see what would happen, and sure enough once I disabled it I was able to login again.

                                                    • LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                      16 days

                                                      Good job I closed my Revolut account then.

                                                        • Schmuppes@lemmy.todayEnglish
                                                          16 days

                                                          I cannot close my account because they won’t allow me to download their app in order to do it.

                                                        • DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
                                                          17 days

                                                          Guess I’ll just never use their shitty service: Sucks to suck.

                                                          • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.netEnglish
                                                            16 days

                                                            Wait, Revolut was broken on Graphene OS a year ago, then they fixed it and now they blocked it again? WTF?

                                                            • UncleObli@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                              17 days

                                                              Thankfully I can still use the app, it seems they are rolling out these changes perhaps across test regions.

                                                              • Dequei@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                16 days

                                                                Yeah, same with Lineage. Deleted the account weeks ago.

                                                                • yardratianSoma@lemmy.caEnglish
                                                                  16 days

                                                                  well, I have no idea what a Revolut is (ah, a UK based bank? odd name), but I mean, they still could not stop web-based banking, right?

                                                                    • KeithD@lemmy.nzEnglish
                                                                      16 days

                                                                      Not sure about them, but some banks have more features on the phone app than on the web. Bloody annoying.

                                                                    • Sips'@slrpnk.netEnglish
                                                                      16 days

                                                                      Believe this started last year sometime, i packed my shit and left.

                                                                      • BandanaBug@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                        16 days

                                                                        Works for me?

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