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- fizzle@quokk.auEnglish30 days
Both this and the other performance make me unpleasantly uncomfortable.
- fizzle@quokk.auEnglish29 days
In her earlier performance, Rhythm 0, Abramović surrendered complete control to her audience as she stood impassively, next to a table with objects that they could use on her as they desired.
It got creepy.
- 30 days
thats probably a 10-15 pound bow that couldnt penetrate skin if you tried for dear life
- 29 days
I went to an Abramovic exhibition at Albertina in Vienna in February and it was pretty impressive and came away pretty impressed. Performance art is not something I was or am very familiar with, but these performances evoke some genuinely interesting reactions from the visitors.
And she did some pretty crazy things too. Once she swapped places with a hooker in Amsterdam where the hooker got to take her place at an award show and she took her shift on the streets. Then there was that performance where visitors could do what they wanted to her with a bunch of objects in the room, which had to be stopped because it was getting too violent.
Some of her performances I would consider weird, but enough of them are quite impressive feats of willpower and make strong statements.
At the end of the exhibition was a table with a ton of rice and lentils. You were invited to put on earcovers and count the grains. Counting grains is one of the techniques Abramovic developed to withstand discomfort for long periods of time. I did actually sit down and counted grains for like 15 minutes and it quickly became like a meditation. Anyway, if you have the chance, I highly recommend it.
- 29 days
I mean all art is stupid in a reductive outlook
The Godfather is a bunch of clips a few seconds long each arranged in such a way as to make it look as if the room which was full of technical equipment and people is actually a room with much fewer people in it who, for a couple of minutes at a time, whilst wearing makeup and being surrounded by microphones, lights and mirrors, repeatedly pretended to be mean to each other in silly voices and old clothes and said the same things over and over whilst being photographed at different angles and then stitched together to make it seem like we were invisible observers flying around at impossible angles and listening to a conversation centimeters from the speaker’s face.
- 30 days
With the positioning they both have it is probably surprisingly easy to keep the bow there.
By this point she had already let a morbidly frenzied crowd of people indulge their inner shadows on her with a pair of scissors. I think she was more concerned with saying her truth than “what if her husband listened to the intrusive thoughts while holding a prop”
Maybe not. Worst case scenario that’s a lethal weapon I don’t think it changes much.
- 30 days
Of course it’s the woman who has the weapon pointed at her heart
I’d never be able to do that. I can have all kinds of trust with my partner, but I don’t trust the bowstring not to slip
- 30 days
And what optics is that? The artisit very specifically states that this art display was about trust and it is with their long term partner.
- 30 days
If it’s just about trust, the roles could be reversed with the exact same message. Either way, one performer takes on all of the risk
I do believe aiming at the woman becomes a stronger message about gender violence and misogyny. Ultimately, it depends on your point of view - although in this case Death of the Author could have become quite literal
- 29 days
If the roles were reversed, it would still be gender violence by your logic… instead, it is art, and per the artist it is not about gender violence, but trust, and the message would me the same if it was two women, because that is what the artist said it is.
- 29 days
You bet it would it still be gender violence. I’d call it subverting expectations and I’m sure someone would call it female empowerment
But art or no, regardless of gender - nobody should point a weapon manufactured for the sole purpose of killing at someone they don’t intend to kill
- atzanteol@sh.itjust.worksEnglish29 days
trying to understand your argument. You’re saying a woman shouldn’t create art where she is depicted as a potential victim?
- 29 days
Of course I’m not saying that
I’m saying that I’m looking at this photo fifty years after its taken and what I see is a man threatening a woman and she’s helping him do it. You could call it a depiction of internalized misogyny
That wasn’t her intended message, sure. But if you show someone this photo without context what do you think they’d see?
An idiot who should research the context before forming an opinion.
- village604@adultswim.fanEnglish29 days
Bro isn’t the artist, she is.
If anyone here is sexist, it’s you.
- 29 days
Bro is also the artist, ackshually ☝️🤓
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulay
Their pieces were collaborative.
- 29 days
Sounds like a lot of projection.
Although it’s art. So even though I strongly disagree, your interpretation is right too.
- 29 days
Abrhamovic’s work is all about putting herself at risk like this. Another one of her pieces has a random audience member, from the general public, point a loaded, working gun at her.
