- BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish11 hours
These Parasites have been getting worse and worse for YEARS, and now we’ve reached the point where they aren’t even trying to hide their corruption.
“You don’t want this Data Center? Well, nobody cares what you want, and they’re paying me bigly, so it’s my entitled right to take that dirty money, and there’s nothing you can do about it, because you’ll STILL vote for me!”
Hey, wait a second, what was that last thing you said?
- Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish12 hours
Then you shouldn’t have backed it then, should you.
Why do politicians never seem to understand how the job works until it’s soon late?
- lightnsfw@reddthat.comEnglish11 hours
“But that corporation gave me so much money! I thought I was doing a good job…”
- evilcultist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish9 hours
“I… I mean free speech. That corporation had so much free speech. No one on the other side demonstrated the same amount of free speech.”
- BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish11 hours
The voters told you No, that you couldn’t have that, but you threw a tantrum and insisted on it, so the voters had to give you a time out.
- melsaskca@lemmy.caEnglish13 hours
“We want to install a great big electronics facility that sucks up all the human drinking water!”. Geez, I wonder why it’s not more popular?
- BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish11 hours
And uses up all the power, making water and power far more expensive, and they’ll use that data center to replace jobs with AI, and surveill us so they can put us in concentration camps.
We are totally aware of the downsides of the data centers, and also aware that the primary reason they want them is to get even richer at OUR expense.
The answer is NO! And if you don’t like that answer, we can make it more emphatic in many ways, which the wealthy really don’t want to experience. I suspect that we’ll have to have several examples before they’ll truly understand. Luigi was one. There will be others.
- Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish12 hours
Because he doesn’t care about that and so he assumed no one else would either. Most politicians are sociopaths and they seem to assume that everyone else is secretly a sociopath as well. Especially on the right.
- nullspace@lemmy.worldEnglish15 hours
They ain’t worth the resources they drain because people keep giving them huge incentives. In Virginia for example they don’t even pay sales tax, pocketing $1.6 billion a year.
- lightnsfw@reddthat.comEnglish11 hours
They also don’t create jobs. At least not locally. Both the data centers my employer has are practically unmanned. They have half the NOC guys working from there just to have someone in the building in the rare chance something happens. There’s zero reason anyone should be giving out incentives to have one of these fucking things put in near them. If they’re going to allow it at all charge the absolute fuck out of the company building it so that the locals benefit.
- Bakkoda@lemmy.worldEnglish12 hours
If you can buy a local politician for 0-100k dollars and youre a business that makes that in seconds then you can do a lot of damage.
- Fedditor385@lemmy.worldEnglish15 hours
Imagine the failed democracy, where the elected representative says that what failed him was pursuing his own agenda, instead of the will of the people he is supposed to represent.
- wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish11 hours
Her miming really annoys me.
You don’t just waggle your hands. He’s doing it right. The hands stay in the same place but rotate. You’re mimicking rubbing your eyes and your eyes don’t move.
- Nouvellalia@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
Hey! Look at you! Brain developed so you can notice subtle nuances! So big! So big!👋🙏👋
Now that you’re ready, you go over there and wach Mamdan do a socialism! So big! So big!👋✊✊👋
Miss Rayray has to keep doing songs for the babies!👋👼👼👋
- homes@piefed.worldEnglish16 hours
animated T-shirt
This seems like a harmless 2026 wish that will become everyone’s 2035 Black Mirror nightmare technology, where your clothing - your entire body - is now covered in a nonstop, blinking, endless advertisement space
10 hoursIt starts to prickle your skin, “watch this short 30 second ad to disable the itch for 30 minutes!”
Five minutes later, starts to prickle again.
Or:
You’re talking with your mother about such-and-such, suddenly your shirt starts blaring an obnoxious influencer screaming “HEY LOSER! DOES YOUR ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR RELATIONSHIPS?!?”
- greyscale@lemmy.grey.oooEnglish14 hours
The Culture Series of book “Surface Detail” has a protagonist called Lededje Y’breq who has an infinitely detailed, moving tattoo. pretty dope scifi
- homes@piefed.worldEnglish8 hours
This sounds somewhat familiar, like something I read in high school when I was very high, and only vaguely remember
- greyscale@lemmy.grey.oooEnglish8 hours
I can thoroughly recommend revisiting it in these dark times for a bit of hopium.
- Nouvellalia@lemmy.worldEnglish9 hours
It also murders unrepentant, genocidal, pieces of shit. Which, I feel, is even better.
- greyscale@lemmy.grey.oooEnglish8 hours
Yes, yes it does. The elon-alike getting splutched was satisfying.
He was given a chance to face consequences before that happened…
I think I prefer how meatfucker interrogates war criminals, however.
- homes@piefed.worldEnglish15 hours
Oooo, now that’s different.
If tattoos could move… but only a little… like, just a small, subtle motion, it could give them a whole new mystique…
- 9 hours
I remember reading about a group of researchers many years ago who had developed a subdermal LED screen that could be implanted and ran off of the oxygen in your blood stream via a tiny turbine or something.
- borkborkbork@piefed.socialEnglish16 hours
nonstop, blinking, endless advertisement space
for real. hopefully my ad-blocking glasses will work there too.
also - human adverts become the new low rent influencers, with people professionally walking around sticking adverts everywhere
- Nouvellalia@lemmy.worldEnglish9 hours
People have been paying companies to walk around advertising for them for 4 decades now. 80% of the population walks around with a pesant’s undershirt, that has the logo of a multinational corporation on it. Or one of some other, smaller business entity. They will have paid 3-6 hours of minimum wage work for this privilege.
- homes@piefed.worldEnglish16 hours
I think we just wrote the plot for the first episode of the next season of Black mirror
As long as the episode ends with everyone getting naked
human adverts become the new low rent influencers, with people professionally walking around sticking adverts everywhere
People have already been doing that for decades…
- NocturnalMorning@lemmy.worldEnglish13 hours
We should be working on making animated t-shirts with science, not these dumb LLMs and datacenters. The future is now.
- homes@piefed.worldEnglish1 day
I wish, oh I wish, I could say it was mine. But I ripped it from elsewhere.
I ripped it because it was such fucking gold. I had to spread it like chlamydia.
And you have to spread it, you have to spread it too!
Lmao, I think I first saw this one on a post about Russian’s crying about their gas prices/queues.
Boo fucking hoo, the consequences of my (in)actions
- PhatalFlaw@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
I did something that directly hurts my constituents, why don’t they like me anymore?!
- Xaphanos@lemmy.worldEnglish24 hours
I can’t wait until this legitimate concern over environmental issues meets up with the reality on the ground.
I work at a DC. We have closed-loop water cooling. We have the same amount of water as a single residential swimming pool in our pipes. It is RO, de-ionized and hyper pure, purchased and brought by a tanker truck. It was filled once, more than a year ago and no more has been “used” since. The toilets use far more water than the servers.
Other companies DO abuse the environment. We would welcome legislation requiring this practice (and others) to make it a level field. There is no need for any DC to behave badly.
- boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish15 hours
What’s the power scale of yours?
I suspect the big ones use evaporative cooling because they’re trying to build in the gigawatt scale and IIRC there was talk about single racks reaching a megawatt soon, currently they’re ~150 kW.
The power density of those new nVIdia GPU compute servers is nuts and using evaporative cooling means less energy use than closed loop.
What I’m saying is, some of those planned datacenters wouldn’t be feasible with closed-loop water cooling. And yes, I agree with you that this should be legislated. If they can’t cool their servers without evaporating a bunch of drinking water, they can… have fewer servers.
- Xaphanos@lemmy.worldEnglish15 hours
We are rated 16MW. Small within my company. Half of that capacity consists of Blackwell racks at 135KW per rack. We use closed-loop at all our sites no matter the size. And we have some BIG ones under construction.
- Jiral@lemmy.worldEnglish18 hours
Data centers can be built in a responsible way, but the big ones aren’t, instead they are built with the dirtiest and most resource consuming means possible because that is the only way to build them as fast as possible.
Responsibly built data centers of the future should be obliged not only to use closed loop systems but also actually use their huge amounts of heat instead of merely wasting it. Feeding distributed heating systems (or alternative ways of productively using that heat) should be obligatory. I know the situation is not the same as with gas power plants for example but it is incredibly wasteful not to use all that heat for something productive. We are talking about many MW here. For reference, the fairly sizeable waste incinerator plant Spittelau in Vienna has a capacity of 400 MW. There are currently data centers being built in the US with capacities higher than that and absolutely nothing productive is done with the waste heat.
Strict regulation is needed but not only that. Those gas turbines would be actually already illegal today. Laws are not enforced anymore for the oligarchs in the US. In other countries that nonsense would not fly already today.
- Xaphanos@lemmy.worldEnglish15 hours
We are known for building big ones fast. You just need to know how and execute with care an skill. Good people are expensive, and we pay well. So we charge more. And our customers know we hit all of our targets, so they are happy to pay.
The waste heat is difficult to use as it’s not that hot. We don’t have steam coming off the servers. They have to stay cool, after all. The water is significantly cooler than many domestic water heaters.
Gas turbines are a fucking nightmare. A move of despair. When our hens are running full bore during tests, we are well under 60dB. Our groundskeeping crew is significantly louder. And modern diesel is nothing like the majority of old trucks on the road today. No odor, no smoke, low-sulfur fuel, etc.
It can be done responsibly. We do it everyday. But trade secrets and NDAs keep us from speaking outside of anonymous forums like this.
- Jiral@lemmy.worldEnglish14 hours
That’s why I said it is not the same as in gas power stations. It is perfectly possible though, the cooling loop doesn’t have to have the temperature of domestic hot water. That is what heat pumps are for. They have built data centers doing it already in 2017.
- Xaphanos@lemmy.worldEnglish11 hours
Excellent. Do you have a link or reference so I can bring it to management? I’d be a hero.
- Chronographs@lemmy.zipEnglish23 hours
Yeah the problems with all these data centers are largely solvable. The power usage part wouldn’t be an issue either if they were also investing in sufficient renewable sources to power these things, but instead when they don’t just dump the burden on whatever is already there they’re always reopening ancient coal plants or setting up gas turbines.
- InvalidName2@lemmy.zipEnglish22 hours
Another power issue in some areas is that these and many other enormous energy hogging facilities get cheaper power rates than residential customers.
They should be paying at least as much per kwh as I am, and in fact, I feel like they should be getting charged way more to encourage them to reduce their power consumption and/or convert to renewables. And in the meantime, use that “way more” to lower my bill or offer real financial subsidies for residential solar installations.
- idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish21 hours
Yeah, necessities should always be cheaper for individuals than for businesses. Worst case if the business can’t pay for it: it shuts down. Worst case if an individual can’t pay for a need: the individual straight up dies.
There’s a lot of things I think should be the case that are more likely to happen though
- jtrek@startrek.websiteEnglish21 hours
There’s still going to be an opportunity cost. You can build massive renewable sources, but powering a data center with it is a shit use compared to other things.
- Xaphanos@lemmy.worldEnglish20 hours
We do invest in local electrical capacity.we always build more capacity than we use.
But that would cost more money! Then line might go up a little less! Won’t anybody think of the poor investors!
- cecilkorik@lemmy.caEnglish23 hours
As with most things, the problem is never the technology itself, technologies have problems, and we find solutions for those problems, that’s what we do, that’s how the progress of technology works. But nobody these days wants to let us have the solutions to the problems or even know what they are, when they can monetize a temporary remedy they can sell to us instead. And the problem is profitable, so they want to force us to have the problem; they won’t let us stop using the problem technology either. Vulture capitalists preying on civilization and waiting for all of us to collapse from exhaustion so they can feed on our wallets, not caring that they’re watching us die.
- 4am@lemmy.zipEnglish21 hours
It’s because they do t like how we organize with technology. They’re taking their toys and going home. None of us can have computers anymore, it’ll all be cloud tablets they control.
- yaroto98@lemmy.worldEnglish23 hours
You being tonedeaf to the wants and needs of your voters lost you the election.
Serious answer? It probably does but the US government has put such things on hold for 10 years, to push the AI bubble the Trump family heavily invested in.
- BigMacHole@thelemmy.clubEnglish23 hours
WHY couldn’t the Voters just LET him take his Bribes! WHO needs Water anyways?
