Just in time for them to take physical discs away! Edit: This is only in EU! For now.
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2 monthsIt’s almost like Sony doesn’t want to have a PlayStation division anymore.
- T. Hex@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish2 months
It’s odd timing given that microsoft seems to be giving up on Xbox
- mindbleach@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 months
The Xbox people have a better grasp of things. Consoles have little reason to exist… and the writing was on the wall when the PS3 stumbled out the gate. Really, in the PS2 era, all those Renderware / id Tech 3 / Unreal 1 games running the same on every platform was a big hint that there was no longer a benefit to having different platforms. Now there’s just various badges over x86 PCs and smartphones - and the smartphones are starting to run Steam games.
None of which is to say that Microsoft has conducted their grand scheme to computer-ify the console market with any degree of finesse, consistency, or follow-through. They’re still idiots for setting successful studios on fire, and for refusing to shit or get off the pot vis-a-vis whether there’s gonna be an Xbox The Next One.
- 2 months
tbh, the big thing that made PS2 great for me when I was young is that I could just plug in the disc and play the game… well, at least most of the time. “Please insert a PS2 disc” was definitely a pain.
Back then, the PS2 was graphically-superior to the PC, at least in terms of cost per dollar. They designed console motherboards to integrate to the different components in ways to make them much faster at video games specifically.
Nowadays, consoles are just glorified PCs, and they have no technological advantage. No technological advantage, no public appetite for console exclusives, no reason to exist.
- 2 months
I wouldn’t be surprised.
The whole tech industry is very overtly hell bent on pushing through an ai controlled dystopia.
What good would the current model of gaming be?
Have a bunch of people work very hard on a game and all that work “loses it’s value” after a year or so. (In their eyes, shit’s gotta sell).
When you can have ai just dream/hallucinate up a game and stream that instead? (It’s nowhere near that yet, but holy shit would they love it)
Now you have an endless stream of stuff to sell that costs you zero manpower.
Now the good peasants go work and can have half an hour of slop per day as a reward. And if they revolt, you just cut them off.
- ferrule@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 months
Where this breaks down is where the AI tech is in this decade/century. Between running out of RAM and the fact these agents barely get marginally difficult tasks (programming wise) done, they won’t be outputting the slop AAA games are today. When you have people making games and most players are pissed at how bad they are and how expensive, we all know that AI built games will be way, way worse and stild as expensive.
- zebidiah@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
do they have any other lines of business that make them money??
i know the camera business is supplies sensors to the majority of cellphones… but the tv business is dead, the phone business is dead (or might asd well be, since it’s asia only), the movie studio can’t buy a hit, what does sony do if it doenst have paystation??>
- givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Notably, the clause is conspicuously absent from terms governing Mexico, the United States, and several other regions, meaning players there are not currently subject to the policy. By contrast, the provision has been enforceable in the United Kingdom and various European countries for years, though it largely escaped public notice until the recent physical-format debate brought renewed scrutiny to Sony’s digital practices.
- 2 months
Yeah really I have no desire for new stuff. Like, why? Ive never once cared about graphics, even when I was around 8, I remember thinking people caring about graphics was stupid, because its the game that matters. Never have I bought a game because it was “shiny” or because I could see a baseball players eyelash. Who cares. I want a game, not a reality simulator (well, I do enjoy walking/ driving simulators once in a while, but not because of graphics!)
Now flashy graphics are fine and all but not at the expense of the game.
Iif I even tried completing every game from 1975 to 1999, I’d have enough play for more than a lifetime of gaming.
New really isnt that great, for me. Some good indie games here and there, sure.
- Feyd@programming.devEnglish2 months
I think ps3 graphics are good enough any thing higher doesn’t make me more immersed and pulling out of immersion to go “oooo pretty” is neat now and then but not that important. I’ll say I do occasionally stop to be impressed by really good shadows though
- LordCrom@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
I always goto Civilization as the example. One of the best games ever before the recent versions… No emphasis on graphics…just well balanced strategy and gameplay. Civ 3 ftw
- Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish2 months
It does have a bit of a learning curve but it’s pretty rewarding if the gameplay clicks with you. Plus it’s apparently great at modeling nature (compared to other games, that is). My lumberjack friend is constantly raving about how the trees types/placement and the forests in general are pretty realistic
The problem is that most of the trillions of games suck and the ones that I had heard of often aren’t on there. I also wish there was some way for multiplayer, I would pay more if they figured that out for some games.
Which one has the best multiplayer platform or do they all work the same?
- christopher@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
The Nintendo DSi can also be made to use emulation. I play nes and snes on mine currently and also downloaded ds games
3DS is even better for that and easier to homebrew. Gives you access to a huge library, including DS and Gameboy advance games
- 2 months
how is that even legal?
we need better consumer protection for digital purchases.
- 2 months
It’s literally because of consumer protection laws. GDPR requires the deletion of unused data, to ensure companies aren’t just holding onto your data indefinitely. This is simply the consequence of that, because Sony has apparently determined that three years is enough of a threshold to be considered “unused”.
- 2 months
GDPR only requires that, if there is no legitimate use for keeping the data. Ongoing software license is a legitimate use.
- Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Yes, but not every single PSN account has any software licenses. Some people are just playing F2P games or subbing to PS+.
But, it’s trickier to word their clause in such a way that it only specifically applies to free accounts.
- FooBarrington@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Whether it’s trickier or not doesn’t matter. Sony is an enormous company, any difference in lawyer fees would be miniscule.
- kossa@feddit.orgEnglish2 months
No, it’s not for GDPR compliance. It’s like this talking point “stupid data protection laws, all those cookie banners”. Nobody is forcing any company to use all those shitty tracking cookies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- 2 months
Because it isn’t a lie. Companies need to justify why they are retaining personal information after they stop using it. If they can’t justify it, they need to delete it.
And you think Sony is going to put their neck on the line to try and argue that keeping old unused accounts open is a justifiable reason? They have literally zero incentive to do so, and a large profit incentive to delete accounts as soon as they can reasonably argue that they are too old. Because that will push people towards re-buying games they already purchased once before.
- Don_alForno@feddit.orgEnglish2 months
Companies need to justify why they are retaining personal information
And the justification is “this person holds a perpetual software license with us and we need to be able to grant them access unless they tell us otherwise”. Case closed.
- Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Do they?
Please prove that every single PSN account has digital software purchases on it. EVERY single one.
If you fail, you’re liable for GDPR and are holding customer data past its use!
- Don_alForno@feddit.orgEnglish2 months
BS. You only have to prove it for the individual account. They obviously don’t have to delete my data because you have no software purchases on your account.
I’ve honestly had it with all the anti GDPR fearmongering and propaganda. It’s not some eldritch horror that will eat your company if it notices you. It’s a powerful and at the same time pretty reasonable customer protection tool. As long as companies don’t take more data than they need to do the business the customer actually came to them for and make sure only people who need to work with the data can acces it they are in the clear 100% of the time.
It’s totally easy to check if an account has a digital software purchase on it or not. That’s just one database query. Sony is totally able to solve that.
- Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Easy on a technical level, yes, but also harder to define in a legal document level.
A game counts - obvious. Does a game demo count? Does one piece of microtransaction DLC count in a F2P game? How does a legal document define those things?
Now that scrutiny is on it, it seems like people would’ve preferred they define this granularly. But at the time, I’m going to guess they decided it wasn’t worth legal risk of having people they did not reserve the right to delete, but also needed to delete for GDPR.
- harmbugler@piefed.socialEnglish2 months
It really reveals the nature of your purchase, doesn’t it? Apparently you are just buying some entries in a database. Sadly any software we can’t use offline can just be deleted like this. The pendulum swung too far towards the cloud, hopefully it comes back down to earth soon.
- 2 months
yhea, that is 100% bullshit.
GDPR isn’t new, and no company was forced to do that.
Might as well block the highway with my car saying that the law forces me to do that, because I cannot pass cars on the left lane, and I point to the “right” lane (opposite direction traffic) on the other side of the barrier.
But good news, according to EU regulations you should just a toilet in your house, you are meant to spew shite into it.
- zebidiah@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
i bought portal2 when it came out on ps3… it also let me set up a steam account through my ps3, because that was going to be the next big thing (this was before ps+ and multiplayer was still free)
12 years later i got a PC, i downloaded steam… and when i logged in, there was portal2 waiting for me to download it.
sony can go fuck themselves
- Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish2 months
Did you actually play Portal 2? And what did you think of it?
- rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish2 months
Also not OP: It was fun. More backstory, more mechanics. I didn’t have a family to play the multiplayer co-op stuff, but it also looked fun.
- Nidandelsa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 months
Not the original commenter, but I really enjoyed it. A little bit longer than Portal with some real gems in the dialog. I would say if you enjoyed the first one, then play the second. I did not do any of the couch-co-op stuff, just the main story, so I have no idea if it’s decent.
- Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish2 months
Coop is fun, especially when you’re messing with your partner
- uniquethrowagay@feddit.orgEnglish2 months
It requires some experience with first person camera controls, though. I found out that can be a real challenge for people who don’t play a lot of video games.
- ILikeBoobies@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
This is a good thing, companies shouldn’t hoard people’s data forever.
Non-spamblog version of the same article: https://www.levelup.com/en/news/playstation-could-permanently-delete-your-psn-account-and-digital-library-for-this-reason/
- brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 months
Thanks, saw MSN had entire articles essentially that were just slop summaries the other day & was put off worrying about journos
Sony’s reminding me of their “599 US DOLLARS” era very heavily lately. Gaming has been in such a rough spot lately, it’s a shame.
- 2 months
The fact that digital everything has been such a clusterfuck of unwashed ass pushed me back to rock climbing. Thanks/go fuck yourself tech conglomerates! I’ve definitely drawn similar associations, Rick
- Waterpumpee@lemmus.orgEnglish2 months
I started playing ukulele because i did not feel like spending a years savings on a new gaming pc and nvidia fucked up gforce now. A recorder/flute is like 7 $. But its impossible to play silent.
- 2 months
My biggest mistake was buying a PS4 instead of jumping to PC a generation earlier than I eventually did.
- 2 months
What an excellent way to convince aging gamers to just never buy from Sony again.
- fishy@lemmy.todayEnglish2 months
Yup, although I haven’t purchased a Sony product in over a decade because they started charging a monthly fee for online services I got free on PC. Funny because I was a fanboy like no other during the console wars.
- NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
I was considering buying one for GTA VI. I’ll wait for the PC release, thanks.
I haven’t logged in since my PS3 died a couple years ago.
Tried to log in to their website with my saved password. It said the password was wrong. I reset my password, entered the same one that I previously used, fully expecting it to give the frustrating answer “Previous passwords can’t be re-used.” But no, it let me use it! Weird.
- [object Object]@lemmy.caEnglish2 months
So some password systems prepend the hash algorithm to your password hash, that way you can tell if the user has migrated to the new algorithm or not when you change your hashing scheme.
Odds are after the PSN breach they changed the algorithm and have since removed the code to check the old algorithm. So it just sees the hash didn’t match with the new algorithm even though the password is the same.
- Tim_Bisley@piefed.socialEnglish2 months
I had not used my ps3 in ages and he to redo the thermal paste on it. Once I got it back up I was able to access my downloaded games without connecting to the network. Maybe the ps4 or 5 is always online requirement?
- RaoulDook@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
I think it does affect PS3, because I booted mine up a couple months ago and it would not let me log in or play my downloaded games. I have to reactivate my account or some bullshit. Should have just left its network cable unplugged
- ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish2 months
Similar for me, a few years I tried to log back on to claim a free game giveaway just in case I bought a PS4/5.
Instead my account was deleted. This account doesn’t exist, or something like that. Can’t make a new account with that email because an account exists. Amazing. I had some stuff on there, I got the receipts.
So I’m surprised at this thread because I thought that was already the policy. Maybe for accounts in countries with no consumer protection rules this was more or less already happening.
I even logged into my Uplay because I knew it was linked to my PSN, to see if there’s a way to get any information about my PSN account. And yes, it showed the accounts were linked, and that I was unsuccessfully logging on with the correct email.
I could have bought a used PS4 during Covid and maybe later a PS5 if I got into their stuff. Alas (for Sony) I tripled down on PC. Even got a Steam deck at an extortionate markup when I felt like it would be worth it for me, via a third country where it’s not officially available. Good stuff
- BigBananaDealer@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
ill be sure to tell my siblings to sign into my account every 3 years. gee thanks sony. whats the fucking point of this
- zqps@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 months
Preventing the recovery of temporarily abandoned accounts (like from a family member that stopped gaming some time ago), and saving a few cents in storage.
