• VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world
    1 minute

    Oh no, we didn’t further destroy the environment printing up a bunch of plastic boxes to get wrapped in more plastic and put into big trucks, boats and airplanes and shipped all over the globe to be placed in stores and purchased to just sit on shelves, mostly untouched so that 30 years later you could still not have the actual game because that disc doesn’t contain any of the patches or DLC content anyway

    What will we do?! This is serious stuff!

  • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
    3 hours

    I still haven’t played GTA 4 or 5. I own them (got 'em cheap long after release) but I haven’t gotten around to playing them yet. Maybe by the time I have GTA 6 will be a reasonable price.

    Remember the words of Guybrush Threepwood:

    Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game.

    • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9 minutes

      I could have sworn it was Elaine

      edit well that’s not what i was expecting but i’m leaving it

    • nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de
      31 minutes

      I felt GTA V was boring, and it had unnecessary glamorisation of criminal life. The story was also pretty mid.

      I really liked GTA IV, especially the DLCs, the story is intertwined with the three characters really well. The driving was much more realistic in 4.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    3 hours

    So I was watching JoeFromSeattle and he basically has an observation/theory from repeatedly interacting with these people on Twitter.

    … They literally do not count themselves as ‘gamers’, they use the word to identify others.

    These are the people who buy Madden/FIFA every year, every COD, every Battlefield, and assume everyone does that, to the point of projecting it without realizing it and then not believing you if you say you didn’t do that as well.

    … they are very often illiterate, cannot understand sentences above roughly Grade 5 complexity, always assume they are correct and work backwards to attempt to form a justification for whatever they’ve decided is corrrect.

    … they’re morons.

    Like just… complete fucking morons.

    And that’s not an insult, its simply accurate.

    • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world
      50 minutes

      I’m sorry but if you’re not playing at least one of those games every year, you are the minority. Those people who constantly buy and play games are more of a “gamer” than a judgemental arse like yourself. Those games you criticise are by FAR the most played and bought games every year, played by tens of millions of people - the majority of gamers.

      People like you give “gamers” a bad name.

  • MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works
    10 hours

    GTA is the exact same formula since GTA3.

    Sure you get a different story, visual upgrades, and some newer cars. But you’re not paying for a new gaming experience, it’s essentially become what people made fun of CoD or Nintendo games for.

    In that sense you’ll get the same thrills from past games. That’s also why I didn’t give a shit about anything past 3, because I like to play new games not reskins.

    I think it’s only survived because it is in this niche of socially acceptable “cool” games. You can admit to playing GTA to almost anyone and your not as much a “gamng nerd”, but if you like a fantasy RPG your some basement dwelling dweeb. Honestly they are not all that different from each other.

    • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world
      47 minutes

      We know next to nothing about GTA6. It could be a revolutionary game for all we know. It could be the greatest game of all time.

    • atoro@lemmy.ml
      4 hours

      different story, visual upgrades, newer cars

      Just spitballing here, but isn’t that like 90% of what makes a game? Or at the very least, literally any sequel?

      Replacing “cars” with whatever is game-appropriate, of course

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.socialEnglish
      6 hours

      Let’s also not forget that much of the talent that built GTA from 1 to 5 left Rockstar and did not work on 6. So there’s no reason to believe it will even be as good as the rest of the series has been.

    • dudeface@lemmy.world
      6 hours

      I don’t think they care as much as you think they do, it is how the average person would have purchased the game regardless

    • SnowzSan@lemmy.ca
      11 hours

      The entire generation after the Millenials are impulsive and raised entirely on being nickeled and dimed to death.

      • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
        9 hours

        I assume you’re being downvoted because this is true for every generation for the past 150 years, give or take. However, I agree that it’s gotten so much worse over the past ~20. Since phones, microtransactions, and subscriptions have become the norm, it’s accelerated to an astounding degree.

        • SnowzSan@lemmy.ca
          7 hours

          Didn’t even know I was honestly. I guess there is a nuance that comes with explaining a position like mine. It was 100% in sympathy of the newer generations, not an attack. They’re so overwhelmed with subscriptions, FOMO, and legally children’s gambling like loot boxes that it’s fucking depressing.

    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2 hours

      The ‘everyone is 12’ joke-theory is actually just essentially true.

      In the US, the average adult person in fact is no more literate or ‘numerate’ than a 12 year old, a 5th grader.

      The average person literally is a tween, in terms of higher thought capacity.

      Again… this is not a joke, it is just actually true.

      Apply George Carlin logic to this.

      50% of American adults are less mentally capable than 12 year olds.

  • Switorik@sh.itjust.works
    13 hours

    People have the power to shut down bad practices if they had even a modicum of restraint. They don’t, so here we are.

    • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world
      33 minutes

      At some point though you have to accept that if the vast majority are ok with something, it’s probably not an actual issue.

      You don’t have to like it or agree with it, and you have the ability to vote with your wallet. Digital only people have been voting with their wallet for years, and physical copy buyers haven’t.

    • akwd169@sh.itjust.works
      4 hours

      People are desperate to latch on to any morsel of media that can distract them from our burning planet, our exploitative society, and their resultant miserable life

      Thats why they dont have control, they need this desperately

    • gndagreborn@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11 hours

      It’s kind of disheartening not having solidarity as consumers. It also feeds this kinda FOMO because you showed restraint and are missing out on something.

      • Switorik@sh.itjust.works
        10 hours

        I’ve come to terms with this. I view fomo content as disrespectful and I do not support the companies that use it as a tactic.

  • Ex Nummis@lemmy.world
    15 hours

    GTA5 was out for like three years on PC before I bothered with it. I found it to be… fairly mediocre. There’s nothing in GTA6 that would make me feel otherwise. I’ll eventually play it… at great discount, or not at all.

    • BewareOfIdiot@nord.pubEnglish
      14 hours

      Yeah I genuinely don’t understand the hype. Maybe I’m just old and fully saturated with GTA already.

      • GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world
        13 minutes

        Are we at the anti-rockstar coping phase where we pretend that most of their games are trash already? 🤣

        GTA3 was revolutionary and legit one of the most important, best games of all time. Vice city was arguably even better of a game. 5 is just an insane open world, the likes which we’ve never seen in a game.

        Now I say this as someone who has no interest in GTA6, got a free copy of GTA5 on 360 and sold it unopened, and hated GTA4, so don’t assume I’m some GTA fanboy.

      • Soggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11 hours

        Well that’s a crazy take, you can just say you don’t like the Rockstar narrative open-world shooter style.

    • lyralycan@sh.itjust.works
      13 hours

      I thought it was pretty cool, as a crass story, mockery of aspects of corporations and society, and as a driving sim. My least favourite part of any MMO is its griefing potential. Fallout 76 was okay because while you, a roleplayer/gamer interested in the game, still got hurt by griefers only interested in murdering other humans, it reduced damage to a miniscule level.

      GTA V Online required that you either secede from society entirely with a private lobby or become a true pacifist, meaning no PvE. Later on they stopped selling exclusively weapon-free vehicles to players and the entertainment level of free roam for me dropped to zero. After that it became just a hub for racing, FPS or sitting in the apartment watching TV, all of which can be better achieved elsewhere.

    • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      14 hours

      I started playing GTA 5 shortly after launch and could make the same statement.

      I’ve bought launch day on this series for a few iterations now.

  • MrIamsosmrt@feddit.org
    13 hours

    Did I miss something or is gta not associated with Sony at all besides being console first for a while?

    • zaphod@sopuli.xyz
      11 hours

      They announced that they’re not releasing a disc version just a few days before sony announced they were going to phase out discs for the playstation.

  • hoohoohoot@fedinsfw.appEnglish
    16 hours

    Or

    Buy official or pirated physical disc media, pay $0 after optional initial purchase, forever own purchased or pirated+torrented movies

    You have to protect your rights, no one else will

  • ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de
    14 hours

    Gamers are so impatient these days. I guess all that instant access via online platforms has spoiled them.

    I still remember when you ordered physical games via mail and had to gulp actually wait a 1-2 weeks for delivery.

    Either that or actually go into a store.

    Back then you really looked forward to a game and you actually played and finished it. Also, patches or updates were either rare or non existent depending on the platform, so Devs actually had to release a complete game. There were no DLCs, there were expansion packs, if anything.

    I never understood people who need to have a game or a piece of hardware on release day. There will always be bugs. When it comes to hardware, I always wait for at least one revision, before I pull the trigger. As for games, I no longer pay more than 20€ for a game. It’s on my wishlist, I only care about the single player experience, my backlog is huge, sales happen all the time,… I can wait.

    • Malta Soron@sopuli.xyz
      4 hours

      I don’t think the “no patches” thing was all that true for PC games. I’ve been gaming since the first Fallout and for practically every game I could/had to download one or more patches from the official website. For multiplayer games like Warcraft 3 you had to make sure everyone was using the same patch. One of the major advantages of Steam was automating the update process.

    • placebo@lemmy.zipEnglish
      10 hours

      I guess all that instant access via online platforms has spoiled them.

      And FOMO. I think many active gamers follow youtubers and other gaming content on social media, so they’re afraid of spoilers too.

  • manxu@piefed.socialEnglish
    15 hours

    That’s the reason we can’t have nice things: the MoFos that will follow along when Evil Inc. does evil thing because they just can’t live without the latest wrinkle.

  • lokalhorst@feddit.org
    14 hours

    I never understood GTA online. For me GTA always has been a great single player series, so get fucked with your stupid Rockstar Launcher.