- 27 days
And the video’s rating was plainly visible so you could use it to make the decision whether the video was even worth your click.
The shovelware AI slop video channels wouldn’t be such a problem today if we still had that.
- 26 days
Going straight to YouTube is like going straight to Imgur looking for good content. Should never be done. Places like Lemmy or friend chat groups refer me to good videos. Or my curated subscribed channels with quality content is the other way I watch youtube.
Anyone going straight to YouTube.com looking for their algorithm and ratings system to tell them about shit content in advance is mistaken in their expectations.
- alpine_jim@piefed.socialEnglish26 days
extensive use of the “Don’t recommend this video > Tell us why > I don’t like this video” function, plus removing bad videos from my watch history after I stop watching, has got me a well-trained slop-free recommendations page with interesting new smallish channels.
- 26 days
Yeah it can definitely be somewhat trained. Also the extention dearrow makes a big difference in the experience too.
- 26 days
Usually I go there looking for something specific and use the search bar.
However, the search function in YouTube has also turned to absolute crap. It only lists a few results and then switches to random shit you didn’t ask for.
A lot of the results are also often misleading titles leading to lazy videos that are a slideshow of impertinent pictures with a synthetized voice spewing inaccurate information. AI has made that even worse. The star rating system would have helped identify these crap videos before you click on them.
- 26 days
and search results showed only videos related to your search. recommendations on the side were similar videos and not some unrelated bullshit. it was so much better.
26 daysHonestly if someone remade an old YouTube alternative I think it would take off.
It’s what I wish PeerTube was, but I’m not sure if that will ever take off sadly.
Lack of advertising dollars is definitely an impediment to video platform alternatives…
I remember a time when people just posted silly little shitty drawn videos just for the fun of it. Not saying creators shouldn’t be compensated for their hard work, I just feel like something was lost with the monetization of every little thing.
- 26 days
The trouble is hosting that much video content and the bandwidth to feed viewers.
- 26 days
People really fail to understand what a truly colossal undertaking a site like YouTube is. It’s a technological wonder that they are able to process that much data and serve it so efficiently. Hate YouTube all you want, I do, but the engineers at Google are fucking magicians.
- 26 days
Last I heard it was something on the order of 700 hours of video content uploaded per minute. Insane.
- 26 days
Maybe when the AI bubble bursts, people will buy up abandoned data centers for pennies on the dollar and repurpose them for a better Youtube alternative. And maybe Margot Robbie will see this comment and fall in love with me.
- 26 days
Recommendations on the side today are related to everything you’ve watched in like the last week or so.
- 26 days
Which I really hate, because it means when you get into some specific interest, YouTube basically stops showing you anything else.
Hey YouTube! Those interests I was into last week, last month, I’m still into them! Please don’t railroad me like that!
You’ll watch that sponsored content and you’ll like it. Because you can’t dislike it.
- eurodyne@piefed.worldEnglish26 days
Only because Google actually worked as advertised (and only as advertised). Compared to what Google is now, that’s a matter of opinion.
All things considered, I’ll take the Google of yesteryear over the Google of today. I’ll also take a more privative and much goofier/glitchier YouTube.
Shit, I remember when having a Gmail account was a coveted thing that required an invite that people paid literally hundreds, even thousands of dollars for. I had five, and I sold one for $2k, and another for $4k. (These people were total twats). Decades later, I still use my fistname.lastname@gmail.com addy, while one is dead, and the other got married 2 months later and changed their name anyway. Idiots, lol. Weeks later, invite Scott bumped up to 50, then 250, then unlimited, then it got opened to the public.
Being impatient is expensive.
Grad school was a crazy time
- Zarobi@aussie.zoneEnglish26 days
Makes me wonder if under the hood it’s still stored as stars or if they migrated their data. Is a 3 star or more rating displayed as thumbs up now? Is a thumbs up just a 5 star rating? When thumbs down existed was that just 1 star?
Back in my day, memes weren’t Ai “enhanced” and Bart didn’t have a vagina for an ear.
- jaybone@lemmy.zipEnglish26 days
What is going on with that vaginear anyway? And the random grass rectangle.
- 26 days
You sweet summer child, back in my day YouTube had a five star rating system and video response functionality.
- kboy101222@sh.itjust.worksEnglish26 days
Gotta say, don’t miss video responses. It was nearly all irrelevant content and people trying to advertise their own channels
- 26 days
Perfectly true. It would’ve been nice, if it wasn’t so inherently abusable. We can’t have nice things.
- 26 days
Could imagine that working at the scale where PeerTube is currently at, where you can actually get to know folks and it’s not just about broadcasting to as many people as possible…
- alpine_jim@piefed.socialEnglish26 days
What’s the point, if downvotes are no longer a factor in the YT backend?
- JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish26 days
It’s a good enough approximation. Do you really need to know if the massively downvoted video had 357,923 downvotes or 357,924?
- 26 days
It’s more complicated than that. The button still exists even without the add-on and the back end factors it in and I think shows the creator, but doesn’t show it to the front end. So the add-on doesn’t have the real numbers but there still are real numbers
- 26 days
yeah the only thing you see with the add-on is the stats for the people who have the add-on, which ideally would statistically approximate the actual data but we all know that it’s not even close.
It is surprisingly close. I download a lot of videos with yt-dlp and have seen ratios where up to 20% of total likes being from Return YouTube Dislike users.
Like here’s a video with 188,573 likes in total of which 28,330 were submitted to the data base:
https://returnyoutubedislikeapi.com/votes?videoId=dtjb2OhEQcU
The users disliked 130 times which was extrapolated to 356. No idea how that formula works, I believe users with this plugin could be more likely to dislike videos than users without that plugin which may be factored in.
- 26 days
And they have data for older videos from before the button was disabled so those are accurate
- 26 days
I had to get rid of it when it caused massive slowdowns for me. That’s probably fixed by now…
- slazer2au@lemmy.worldEnglish27 days
It still does, it just doesn’t show numbers because YouTube is a coward.
- 26 days
No the API is dead. The extension everyone is using calculates their own dislike number by inferring from the extension users who disliked the video
- 26 days
Afaik it’s only for the YT-Studio backend, so creators can see the dislikes but there is no public access to that data
- 26 days
I meant that while the button is still there the Data is only available for the uploader via the Studio backend. The public API is dead, wich I omitted in the original comment for simplicity
- 25 days
How is:
the Data is only available for the uploader via the Studio backend.
different from:
it just doesn’t show numbers because YouTube is a coward.
?
You were more technical than the top level comment and framed it as a disagreement.
- 25 days
Because the second can implies the data is still available but not displayed. I wanted to specify that the data isn’t available (for the public). I don’t disagree with the top per se but wanted to clear up the ambiguity
- 26 days
They already removed it from Shorts. Give it a little time and it will be gone from the rest of the videos.
- 26 days
All I want these days is a “Don’t show me any fucking AI slop” setting and a button to report AI slop.
- 26 days
Tidal has a no-AI button, if it helps. They’ve just introduced it. That’s music taken care of, I guess. It’s something.
YouTube is letting people mark their videos as AI or not AI and I assume doing nothing with it? I think I’ve stumbled upon an AI video or two on YouTube but I didn’t see any labels?
EDIT: Oh, fuck, are they just asking us to label our videos “non-AI” so they don’t train their own AI on AI slop? Fuck.
- 26 days
Then turn the button into some kind of cookie-clicker type game, because it will be being used a lot!
- 27 days
back in my day, you posted about your life in your geocities website! And you wrote the html on notepad and had to include an animated gif that told people to email you, cause that was the style at the time.
- eurodyne@piefed.worldEnglish26 days
Eh, back when GeoCities was still a thing, most people were too busy actually having a life to regularly post about it online. Since this was before smartphones, updating a social media profile was a lot more complicated and time-consuming.
Having an active social media profile back then was often a red flag that a person was more “talk” than “walk“.
- eurodyne@piefed.worldEnglish26 days
Unironically, that’s usually what most geocities pages were about
- NABDad@lemmy.worldEnglish26 days
I wrote HTML in EDIT, but my first webserver ran on an OpenVMS Alpha workstation.
- 25 days
Ah, I remember when you paused and the whole video was buffering. You could have multiple tabs open and watch the video when it was done. No matter what kind of connection you had, you could simply wait for the video to finish downloading in the background and watch it without problems.
No ads, a 5-star rating system, 100% buffering, and mostly enthusiasts posting, no profit-driven incentives. We didn’t know how good we had it.
I hate the way YouTube now gives millions of dollars to people exploiting children watching videos - be it slop factories or ‘influencer’ preying on their insecurities.
In a just society YouTube would have been destroyed as a pseudo-monopoly ages ago.
- Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish25 days
I watched so much illegally uploaded anime on old YouTube/Dailymotion… those were the days
- 26 days
We’re all being punished because Google’s feelings got hurt when we didn’t like the 2018 YouTube Rewind enough. That was the end of the dislike button and the YouTube Rewind altogether.
- 26 days
Back in my day, you could customize your YouTube profile and PM anyone on the platform
- osanna@lemmy.vgEnglish26 days
May I nicely suggest AdNauseam instead? It poisons the well of advertising.
- Sandbar_Trekker@piefed.zipEnglish26 days
The dislikes were great at telling me quickly if a tutorial was good or not.
Now you generally have to check the top comments to see if there’s something wrong about the tutorial, but then YouTube started hiding those comments below ads/recommendations.
Now I just use GrayJay and I can quickly check comments for any video.
