Whether intentionally or not, what do movies depict or present wrong a lot of the time?
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- 2 months
The relaxed position of mammalian eyelids leaves them open. Muscles must contract for the eyes to be shut. Dead creatures cannot contract their muscles so their eyes remain open after they die.
You cannot shut their eyes for them by closing their eyes with your hand. Morticians place contacts in cadaver’s eyes while preparing the body for a wake. Those contacts grip the inside of the eyelids so that they remain closed.
This is why some cultures have funerary traditions in which objects are placed over the eyes.
TL;DR: you and your loved ones won’t close their eyes when they die.
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This is a really big one. I have to revise all of my heroic self insert fantasies where i cover up a dead person’s eyes
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Like when you’re at the bank and a bank robber shoots a bunch of people and then you jump out from cover and start covering all the corpses eyes super fast.
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Loudness of gunshots. Every action hero would be deaf.
Archers being told to “hold”. Nobody’s holding a +100lbs warbow.
Sprinklers. In the vast majority of cases they react to heat - not smoke. They only go off individually rather than all at once and the water inside the pipes is black ink-like rust water sludge, not clear tap water.
Also another plumbing related: you don’t need a huge wrench under the sink and drains are not pressurized so there’s no water spraying anywhere when you mess with the p-trap.
- 2 months
Also archers being told to “fire”
as firing didn’t exist until gunpowder, the instruction wouldn’t make sense. Like telling a soldier now to “activate the positronic tacyons!” instead of “fire”
- sbv@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 months
Sex and relationships in action movies.
The whole “hot chick gets horny for the hero after a traumatizing couple of hours” thing gives a pretty messed up view of relationship building.
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Or as comedian Kyle Kincaid said, the idea that the action hero could still get it up.
- 0ops@piefed.zipEnglish2 months
This one definitely turned me off the first Terminator movie. I mean I know it’s critical to the plot but it still makes me roll my eyes.
- sbv@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 months
The 80s and 90s were rife with that trope. I don’t know if modern action flicks are as bad.
- 2 months
I remember Speed made a joke about this at the end. A crack about “Relationships built on life threatening traumas don’t last” or something lol
- slazer2au@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Hacking.
tap tap tap I’m in.
Honourable mention is NCIS Dual keyboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ
2 monthsYears back, I remembered watching the Wargames scene where the computer was trying to “guess a passcode”. Which it was doing remotely. Determining one digit at a time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGNBdjVO04Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7qOV8xonfY
I said, “This is completely ridiculous. That’s not how any kind of real world authentication system works.” Dramatic, yes. Realistic? No, never happen.
Some years later, there was a severe remote exploit for the filesharing feature for Windows 95 and 98 systems. Not only had the Microsoft person who designed the thing stored the password to a share in plaintext instead of hashing it, which would have precluded this from working, but there was also a bug where the server’s authentication system could be sent a malformed message and only validated as many bytes of the password as had been specified in the authentication message. Someone promptly went out and wrote an exploit to brute-force access to a share by just asking it to only validate the first byte, try each, get in in at most 256 tries. I look at that and say “yeah, but it also exposes the next byte of the password itself, and those probably persist even after the thing is patched, not to mention the potential for credentials reuse for other things”. I go modify Samba’s smbclient to iterate through the thing, extract the password one byte at a time. I message a buddy who has a Windows 98 machine on the network, “hey, can I break into your machine for a sec?” He comes up “Uh, okay. What are you up to, tal?”
I fire it up and we’re sitting there watching his password be printed on my Linux box’s screen, one letter at a time. I said, “This is exactly like that scene in Wargames that I said could never, ever happen in real life, was just Hollywood. Guess that showed me.” He says, “fucking Microsoft”.
- 2 months
Honourable mention is NCIS Dual keyboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQTop hacking scene of all time!
- neidu3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 months
I somehow didn’t see that episode. But now that I’ve seen that scene, it is certainly one of the all time UNIXest of Systems
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That’s the gold standard for hacking, by far. But this also deserves a mention for pushing the bounds of technology, way ahead of it’s time: https://youtu.be/fQGbXmkSArs?is=Ud3PG9ymvBif7h2T
- slazer2au@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Not as many as what’s his face jumping a fence in one of the Taken films.
- Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Cute Asian girl with green hair and a side ponytail: “I’m in!”
Six keystrokes later: “Ok I pulled up the floor plans to the building, disabled the cameras and unlocked all the doors.”
Telephone etiquette. They just start yapping and then hang up without saying goodbye.
There’s a common theme in movies — since you can only hear one side of a phone conversation — of a character repeating a lot of what the other person said for the audience’s benefit. I’ve seen some example conversations written out showing both sides that show how ludicrous such a conversation would have to be.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RepeatingSoTheAudienceCanHear
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phone rings, main character picks it up
“I don’t know who you are. I don’t know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don’t have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that’ll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don’t, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.” - MC
“Uhh, I’m just calling about your extended car warranty…” - poor bastard
- 2 months
My mother’s husband does that shit though. Never says goodbye, just hangs up the phone and I’m left annoyed again.
- SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zipEnglish2 months
Most dishonest about? Hard to say, since movies are dishonest about virtually everything. (As escapism, that’s what we want.) But a big one that comes to mind is proceedings in courts of law.
In real life, a court case is excruciatingly procedural, spread out over months of correspondence and brief hearings, and the vast majority of them never go to trial. And for the few that do go to trial, there are never any intense, witness-stand confrontations, or inspiring speechifying by the plaintiff or defendant. No attorneys shouting, “OBJECTION!”, across the room.
I know of two friends of a friend, one of whom signed a reverse mortgage on his house with some scammers who promised that he could live the rest of his life there, but then who turned around and filed to evict him. Clearly influenced by dramatic courtroom scenes in TV and movies, he seemed to think that “court” meant that he would be able to show up and give the judge a moving soliloquy about being a righteous, disabled veteran, and prevail. The judge did his level best to help the guy out by almost insisting on appointing a guardian ad litem (free attorney!), but he refused. (Sadly, he died before it went to trial, and the scammers kept the house.)
The other one got sued by a credit card company over a charge that was obviously bogus (i.e. from a swimming pool contractor in eastern Europe, which is just who you’d call in the midwestern U.S.), but they had the same mental script: Show up in the courtroom and speechify to the judge. They didn’t even respond to the summons and complaint, and the company won by default judgement.
It’s maddening.
I sat on the jury for a murder trial last year (maybe 2). It was impressive how inept both the defence and prosecution seemed and how flat out sloppy it all felt.
- 5too@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
The story Foxfire, Esq on Royal Road is written by a lawyer, and goes into all kinds of detail about the processes they go through, and just how long things take.
Also goes into a little detail about what kind of legal adjustments the system makes for superheroes, because it’s a superhero legal drama :p
- 2 months
Gun sounds in general. All those action heroes are deaf after that indoors shootout
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Nobody has that much time in the morning, or they go to bed at 8PM.
I want to see celebrities walking around sweaty in a hot day. Show us the sweat takes!
Bad cell phone reception is also depicted wrong. But I’m not an expert.
Smashing your phone does not reliably disable it. Odds are the data is completely recoverable, and the device may not have even powered down.
Also ghosts. As far as we know ghosts are not real. Yet there’s an entire genre of movies about ghosts with varying rules.
The amount of trauma the human body can absorb is a bathtub curve based on your morality.
NYC should only ever be depicted with giant piles of trash everywhere.
- blarghly@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Also ghosts. As far as we know ghosts are not real. Yet there’s an entire genre of movies about ghosts with varying rules.
Yeah, and what’s up with all the flying people with super strength, and talking animals too? So dumb
- 2 months
Talking animals are real, but if you witness it you’re in imminent danger and unlikely to live to tell the tale
- 5too@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Smashing your phone does not reliably disable it.
Similarly, shooting the computer monitor won’t do anything but make it so you can’t see things!
(I liked how it flipped in Into the Spider-Verse - Miles takes off with the computer and monitor, and Peter catches up to him while they flee, and says “Good news! We don’t need this” and chucks the monitor behind them)
- 2 months
Or when someone goes down an alley in NYC. There are hardly any alleys in Manhattan. It’s a tiny island and every inch of usable space is occupied. That’s why there are piles of trash everywhere.
Pulling people out of a burning building. In reality the smoke and fire is so bad, you ain’t seeing shit, not like the clear visibility like they show in the movies. And I spoke to a firefighter who’d been doing it for 35 years. The guy was teaching fire safety at my workplace. He said he responded to thousands of burning buildings and the number of times anyone’s been saved out of a burning building? Exactly zero. That always stuck with me.
The heat alone is off the fucking charts, too. These are 1,100-1,500F. Like trying to walk through an oven only 3 or 4x hotter.
- 2 months
Though I fully agree with you i do recall this youtube video from a few years ago of a guy running back into his burning home to save his dog and he got him out alive.
- 2 months
If you know exactly where you’re going, and the path is not itself in flame, and the residual heat+smoke have not yet rendered both your path and your patient’s current location unsurvivable, then it is possible.
The movie trope of covering your mouth with a rag and walking through rooms which are actively on fire, trying to find someone who has been inside that same room getting asphyxiated and/or cooked for several minutes is most definitely not real.
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I’m pretty sure it’s negative numbers actually, I saw this video once on YouTube where firefighters were carrying people up ladders and putting them inside the burning buildings
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A whack to the head just puts people to sleep for a few minutes and then they carry on like normal.
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I think familial relationships are often romanticized in movies. I always see siblings act like they are best friends with each other and in my reality my brother and I are just two people. We like each other but I wouldn’t say he’s my best friend and I don’t think he would say it either.
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On the other hand, my brother and sister are two of the best people in the world, and we get together as a big family with all the kids absolutely every school holiday. Some families are close. We don’t always agree on everything, but we always get along well.
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My brother and I are bffs but we don’t refer to each other as bro or sis. I hate that trope.
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Yes, also hollywood portrays friends and family as cussing each other off and being really pissy with each other because “nothing mean that we say is lasting or counts as an insult because we already have emotional invulnerability to one another” - it is not like this AT ALL in real life. The people who can hurt you most are the ones closest to you, and i think that this is an example where real life has been imitating the art too much - people are much more emotionally abusive of one another than before, taking banter much too far.
- thesohoriots@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Millennials/gen Z with their phone sound on. I get it’s to fill otherwise blank space in the sound, but we’re not texting with the click-click-click-click.
Early PCs didn’t play beep-boop sounds when you typed or when displaying a letter on the screen either, so join the crowd. I mean, people would have shoved a screwdriver through the speaker diaphragm if they had to listen to that all day.
If you go all the way back to teletypes, okay, there was an impact sound, and computer keyboards were significantly noisier up until membrane and rubber domes became popular, but that’s about as far as reality takes one.
- 2 months
How many physical injuries an action hero can sustain and still pull off demanding stunts.
- blarghly@lemmy.worldEnglish2 months
Also, the hero getting injured, then goes to the hospital, recovers, and goes right back to his super cool action hero activities. Instead, they would at have a permanent limp or funky shoulder for the rest of their lives at the very least.
- 2 months
John wick would have spent the rat of his live as a semi vegetable in a bed
That is if he had survived in the first place, which nobody would have after about 5 minutes into any John wick movie
Injections always annoy me. Shanking people in the neck with ridiculously fat needles. Or how bout Pulp Fiction where they stab her through the sternum? Also going in the arm, but the angle’s totally wrong and they’d basically be stabbing right through the vein lol
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In pulp fiction it’s an adrenaline shot directly to her heart. It is actually a legit medical treatment, but pretty rare / last resort.
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Or how bout Pulp Fiction where they stab her through the sternum
Lol, i didn’t think about it until now, but that doesn’t make sense you’re right.
Yes i don’t think laypeople know how much care has to be taken with injections
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So true, really common one, and that cuts to the heart of the “fakeness” that hollywood conveys in its movies
- 2 months
i don’t believe in bottling-up emotions. it creates people whose unpredictability makes interactions with zem a quaking tightrope.
