Microsoft extends Windows 10 ESU for home users to October 2027, one year longer than planned. Here's the changes, the cost and how to enroll
  • Graphiar@lemmy.zipEnglish
    7 hours

    Still using Windows 10, but after testing out Linux on the side last year I’ve come to the conclusion it’s ready. Other than anti-cheat being in the shitter once Win 10 is officially dropped for good by games I’m moving over to Arch.

  • auzy1@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9 hours

    Sorry, but this sounds like its half bs.

    It probably has less to do with “rejecting” or anything to do with RAM, and more likely to do with all the embedded systems running it, or lazy people who don’t upgrade simply because they don’t need to

    I know lots of people running old versions of Mac OS, and it is because their hardware doesn’t support newer, and it works fine for their usecase. They’re not thinking about the hardware in any way.

    In fact, in contrast to MacOS, Microsoft actually offers this extended support option, whereas Apple tells its users to get f’ed fairly quickly (yet another reason NOT to use MacOS / Apple. You pay a premium for hardware they often don’t support for long). Also, Ubuntu offers 15 years now support for LTS (which is crazy).

    I use Fedora btw.

    • kungen@feddit.nuEnglish
      8 hours

      They’re not thinking about the hardware in any way.

      Yeah, but that’s also because Apple doesn’t even inform the user that their version of macOS is EOL. So unless you’re an active follower of Apple news, most people won’t care – at the least simply because they wouldn’t even know. Same thing with Android, etc… whereas Microsoft makes it annoyingly obvious that you’re running an unsupported version.

      • auzy1@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8 hours

        That’s true… And its not a good thing either,

  • SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish
    12 hours

    Just reposting something. Most of it probably applies to Windows 10 too.

    00000

    PSA, for people sticking to Windows:

    You can get a reasonable level of privacy by installing Windows Enterprise via RUFUS, which also has options for removing restrictions during installation. Massgravel is used to activate your copy of Windows, the Github also having .ISOs for you to use with RUFUS.

    ShutUp10 is a piece of software that goes a step further, allowing you to toggle off many bad things, uninstall Microsoft’s AI, and gives a description of what you are tweaking does. The premium version also automatically applies your settings at all times, reverting Microsoft’s constant tweaking of your settings.

    RUFUS

    Massgravel

    ShutUp10

    • DupaCycki@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10 hours

      Some people really do say that Linux is too much hassle, but then go through a 30 step process just to have a slightly less bloated piece of spyware.

      I mean, it’s good that this option exists. I’m sure it’ll be helpful for people who need Windows 10 for some obscure music software, that doesn’t work well or at all in a virtual machine or through wine. That might really be Windows 10’s singular last use case.

      • SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish
        9 hours

        I think they rebranded. I kinda figured that Massgrave was some sort of holdover of 90’s teen edginess or something.

  • heartSagan5@lemmy.zipEnglish
    11 hours

    Does ESU require a Microsoft Account? Because that’s probably the underhanded/shady bit of this whole thing.

    “All your data are belong to Microsoft.”

  • HexesofVexes@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15 hours

    Honestly, Microsoft may be full of arseholes, but moves like this at least one sane human works for the company.

    It takes balls to admit you fucked up , and this is one employee showing some balls.

    • dev_null@lemmy.mlEnglish
      15 hours

      That’s one way of seeing it. Another is “if we kick them out of 10 and they are not willing to go to 11, they will switch to Linux or go Mac, we’d rather have them on 10 than not at all”

      • Jason2357@lemmy.caEnglish
        7 hours

        Honestly, Microsoft doesn’t give a shit about anyone but enterprise customers. They were probably told to get bent by one too many large companies running fleets of thousands of old embedded systems or call centres packed with old desktops or something.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caEnglish
        13 hours

        Or more likely just continue to use Windows 10 when it’s no longer supported.

        Microsoft is squeezing everyone with EOL shenanigans. If it becomes commonplace to continue using software when it’s no longer supported, this strategy no longer works.

        • heartSagan5@lemmy.zipEnglish
          11 hours

          Hackers will enjoy the land of exploits, though, whereas Linux seems to allow you to patch without needing to change versions. Sure, it may slow the experience, but meh.

      • HexesofVexes@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14 hours

        That carries more self-awareness than one can reasonably imply from vulture-capitalist shareholders.

  • Loce@lemmy.worldEnglish
    18 hours

    Nah, I’m good. Switched to Linux, and there’s no need for me to go back

  • humanamerican@lemmy.zipEnglish
    19 hours

    Gotta use a MS account on your computer though, so this is not a viable option for a lot of people

  • Wispy2891@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19 hours

    Weird, who doesn’t want to buy a new computer because reasons, in this economy

    • lenocolomo@lemmy.mlEnglish
      18 hours

      Good way to go! And if you’re really technically ept and have no friends, don’t use arch but rather the average systemd-free glibc-free and ofc bloatless distro. That’ll get you occupied for a while.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.caEnglish
    23 hours

    I think it’s more that users can’t afford new hardware, even though win11 seems like a step backwards.

    • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      22 hours

      There’s also the point that game quality has gone down significantly. If I were to build a new rig which would cost me an arm and a leg, I would still just play games that my current PC can already run anyway. I don’t wanna play the newest CoD-slop or some tech-demo with MTX-shop disguised as a game. The newest games I really enjoyed were Monster Sanctuary (Unity-based monster collector metroidvania-like) and Balatro (no introduction necessary). A toaster can run these.

      • bandanawearingbanana@lemmy.worldEnglish
        15 hours

        Don’t forget that not everyone uses their Pc for gaming. Most programs really don’t need Windows and since all of the office package can be used through the browser with no real difference in user xp there is no need to upgrade older hardeware that can just stay on Windows 10 or become a Linux system easily.

      • TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        18 hours

        DMZ 2 is coming though… I haven’t had fun like back when DMZ was playable. Not defending cod in any way other than DMZ is life

        • Jayjader@jlai.luEnglish
          19 hours

          Slay the Spire but with poker hands instead of medieval-fantasy-combat

  • Zephyr@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    1 day

    Obligatory, here’s your sign to switch to Linux. For people who do nearly everything or everything online it’s a pretty easy switch.