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1 monthHey! I’m in that list and I have no clue what any of this is about 🙂
What the hell is Tesseract?
- 1 month
It’s really just a custom ui/frontend that admins can run for their lemmy/(piefed too?) instances.
Well, I quickly read through that list and I’ll say this: considering the insane amount of stuff that gets silently filtered out, whoever views Lemmy through that thing must think it’s pretty quiet 🙂
- Carl@anarchist.nexusEnglish1 month
And that’s a large part of the issue. The frontend doesn’t actually disclose this blocklist at all. In fact, it actively takes steps to obfuscate things and make it appear as if the blocklist doesn’t exist at all.
For example, attempting to view a blocked instance shows a generic network error, rather than a “this instance is being blocked by your frontend” error. And blocked users aren’t simply flagged and/or collapsed. They’re entirely hidden, as if they don’t exist at all. So someone using this as their primary frontend wouldn’t even know that they’re missing entire posts and/or comment chains, because anything from the blocked users is simply gone.
Additionally, the blocklist is downloaded (in plaintext, over http) when the frontend is booted, so it’s not a file that gets updated with the git version updates. Meaning the dev can silently update it even if users haven’t pulled new versions. Simply rebooting your frontend would be enough to pull an updated blocklist. This gives the dev an extreme amount of censorship power, because they can effectively change users’ configs without any action on the users’ part.
It was only originally discovered because the admin for db0 used the frontend. And notably, db0 is on the block list. They were previously using an old version of the frontend that didn’t include the hidden blocklist yet. They updated their Lemmy stack a little while ago, and suddenly their entire frontend was broken (the entire feed was completely empty) and showing a generic version incompatibility error.
After lots of troubleshooting, the db0 admin eventually discovered that the frontend was downloading a hidden blocklist and automatically blocking the instance that it was running on. Because when they updated their stack, the new version of Tesseract included the secret blocklist. So it downloaded the blocklist when it booted up, found that db0 was on the list, and silently hid every single post because they were all from a blocked instance. This resulted in a completely empty feed.
- halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish1 month
Considering the amount of effort put into the blocklist by the Tesseract dev to keep it hidden, you would think they would have included an exception if it was running on a blocked instance to help keep it hidden.
- 4am@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
Don’t give them ideas, it’ll be harder to find the next one.
I guess the lesson here is “compile from the source repo and code review before you install a new frontend”
- chilicheeselies@lemmy.worldEnglish30 days
Oh that’s mental. I didn’t realize it was that bad. Something new to worry about scanning for when using open source!
- 1 month
Yup, and this is just speculation, but I guess it’s supposed to be an anti-spam thing, but it targets a lot of people/communities/instances that post actually good content
- Brkdncr@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
It’s not anti spam at this point. No one obfuscates something that much for antispam.
- T156@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
It’s also a weird place for anti-spam, to have it be client side. That should be done on the server, rather than the various clients handling it.
- 1 month
True! Idk, that part is just speculation, hence why I said I guess, not I know. Either way, they did a shitty job that should be shunned.
I’m on the list and I’ve never even posted anything. I do comment a decent amount, though, but I wouldn’t consider any of it to be spam.
- 4am@lemmy.zipEnglish1 month
Did you ever talk shit about billionaires or crypto? Make any anti-AI posts?
Yeah, I’m pretty unabashedly anti-capitalist, so I’m not surprised I ruffled some feathers. I was just pointing out that the idea that this was just a spam filter taken too far doesn’t really hold up.
- prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish1 month
but I guess it’s supposed to be an anti-spam thing
Oh my God, I swear some people will just never get it.
No dude, this isn’t just someone trying to block spam, this is ideologically targeted to silently remove specific viewpoints from people who use the stylesheet without disclosing that they’re doing that.
This obviously has nothing to do with spam. Keep giving people like this the benefit of the doubt, and see where it leads us.
Edit: I just saw your pfp… Were you aware that this blocked the entirety of Blahaj? The de facto trans instance?
Try justifying that as anti-spam.
- 1 month
Oh, whoa, I did not see that. From what I had seen I could have sworn that it had general political blocking. That’s my bad!
I don’t think it’s anti-spam. It looks pretty much like a personal blocklist, it blocks a lot of users that have political views that the tess dev doesn’t agree with. It blocks political keywords often used by certain ideologies that I guess the dev doesn’t agree with, for example, no ones blocking “neoliberal” as a keyword because of spam.
This looks entirely like a personal blocklist which is completely fine, but secretly adding it to the frontend is v dubious…
It’s a shame I think the dev is a good person from the convos I’ve had with them, but this crosses a bit of a line…
Wow, this dev must be an absolute chud, in which case I’m honored to have triggered them so. Tongue punch my fartbox, loser.
There’s a user regex section for people across multiple instances, so:
“^cheeseburger$”,
I guess that means all my accounts are covered 😄, but why? Who the fuck am I to this fool? What an absolute clown.
“Kate” is also on the list 🫣 am i the only kate on lemmy? i don’t know of any others but i guess we’re all in this together if so
I’m on the list too, and that’s what I’m saying. I’m just a dude.
- Wren@lemmy.todayEnglish1 month
I post leftist, feminist, gay shit all the time and didn’t get blocked. They just shadowbanned my news coms. This is outrageous.
Maybe the snowflake blocked themselves from the spaces where you’re active.
- Wren@lemmy.todayEnglish1 month
That just means I need to post more gay, leftist, feminist stuff all over the fediverse.
I just want Lemmy to have a better, more wholesome, and welcoming experience for new users, as such I’ve decided to block the things I think we can all agree are bad:
- Calls for violence
- Politics
- Sex
- Nu metal
- People who put egg in potato salad
- Jerry (all of them)
- 1 month
Whoa hang on now… all Jerry’s? I dunno if I can get behind that.
- volore@scribe.disroot.orgEnglish1 month
Half of your ice cream is now verboten
Sorry, I don’t make the rules, just the way it is.
- 1 month
You forgot “perchance”! The worst crime of Lemmy…
- wiccan2@thelemmy.clubEnglish1 month
I’m on the list, this account is only 3 months old, no posts, 41 comments.
Who and how the fuck did I piss off, lol
Same same. I’m not on the list either. But I do a lot of lurking, maybe that’s why.
Well if the tesseract chud is reading this, they’re a piece of shit, I’m a socialist, etc etc.
- 1 month
Any idea what the regexis mean? I landed there which is funny because that means my .world, dbzer0, ml, mbin, piefed, and hexbear accounts would all likely get pegged under the same name, lol.
- qwank@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
My understanding of regex is used to capture certain words used together, so it might catch life and choice, or some other combination deemed bad
- snoons@lemmy.caEnglish1 month
“Fuck” is a keyword ban lol. Well, maybe the ‘^’ does something in regex.
Lmao, the delicate masses must be kept from seeing anyone who starts a sentence with a swearsie
- 1 month
It’s a badge of honour. Looks like the cunt hates anything that isn’t a basement dweller in their mother’s house or their own mother’s cunt.
Also someone who blocks literally anything that discusses rights for people and hides behind ‘toxicity’ have so much to hide. Maybe someone should check their hard drive.
- 1 month
I suppose this means the guy in question prefers velociraptors over people, otherwise I can’t explain why am I on the list.
- Godric@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Finally, the days of anti-ceretopsian slander are at an end! Sign me up!
“^hierophante”,
“^HistoryLOL”,
“^hitstun$”,
“^holyclergy$”,
“^HomeInvasion$”,
Oh, so that’s why I can’t find my own posts in Tesseract. I’m surprised they didn’t block my whole community.- BigPotato@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Feeling offended now, going back through my comment history and thinking “Why did that not get me on there?” Am I too tame?
It’s probably because I spend 60% of my time on here overthinking and eventually deleting my posts before posting them…
And 30% writing the posts that never get posted.
- ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 month
Yeah you’d be overthinking it since the dev wasn’t doing much themselves. The blacklist was not put together coherently and appears to be mostly built by emotion, especially in light of the dev’s “I’m not sorry at all” response.
The dev is a part of a corporate structure they formed where they’re named CFO. They are, in their mind, Fediverse C-suite, and they act accordingly.
- ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 month
https://fedihosting.foundation/about-us/
Patrick is the CFO listed here: https://fedihosting.foundation/fhf-team/
Edit: https://sh.itjust.works/post/63914623
Their (locked for comments) public response.
- VitoRobles@lemmy.todayEnglish30 days
Locked the post? What a little bitch! Couldn’t take criticism, Admiral Patrick, you little snowflake?
- TheStaffmaster@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Found myself. What’s this all about then?OOOOHHHHH, so this is about Leftist cred. I see. ;) I guess this proves I’m not a misogynist, like the Admins on 196 seem to think.
- susi7802@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 month
YSK I have a personal black list of users that I never will see again. If you can still see this message you’re fine.
- Randelung@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
Shit, I gotta dial up the woke more.
Human rights for everyone, I guess? Will that do it?
- 1 month
Initially I defended the dev and now I’m sad the leopard didn’t eat my face. :'(
- 1 month
I think it’s more like saying “it is good to defend ourselves against people who seek to kill us for our innate characteristics” is crossing the line. Or that colonialism should not be allowed
